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Title: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: meano_lover on August 04, 2008, 11:23:54 AM
hi all, i hit a rock yesterday that put a pinhole in my ducati oil filter, looking for a new one, but find it hard to pay 27 dollars at the dealer. is there a cross reference for oil filters? i know there's a post in the "Alternatives to expensive Ducati parts" forum here in tech for fuel filters, but oil filters maybe? any help is appreciated. thanks!
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: Slide Panda on August 04, 2008, 11:38:24 AM
$27!?  wtf... my local dealer sells the DP filters for about half that.  For the price I can get them at it's a toss up between brands, regarding the price.

Other filters that will fit
K&N 153
Amsoil EaOM138c
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: Fresh Pants on August 04, 2008, 11:49:51 AM
And...

Hi-Flo Filtro HF 153 ~$7. (They supply a lot of OEM for filters, but are cheaper)
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: Howie on August 04, 2008, 02:39:17 PM
Your dealer is pretty much doubling the price for the OEM filter.

Quote from: French Pants on August 04, 2008, 11:49:51 AM
And...

Hi-Flo Filtro HF 153 ~$7. (They supply a lot of OEM for filters, but are cheaper)

AFIAK, Ducati also.  Where are you buying them?
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: Fresh Pants on August 04, 2008, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: howie on August 04, 2008, 02:39:17 PM
Your dealer is pretty much doubling the price for the OEM filter.

AFIAK, Ducati also.  Where are you buying them?

Local moto parts shop has 'em, but I bought a couple of the Amsoil EAO filters recently.
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: He Man on August 04, 2008, 03:51:43 PM
depending on how often you change your oil, id just buy a few of them and throw them in the closet. They are only $12 bucks online.
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: VeryMetal on August 04, 2008, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: He Man on August 04, 2008, 03:51:43 PM
depending on how often you change your oil, id just buy a few of them and throw them in the closet. They are only $12 bucks online.

+1 on this.

You're never going to regret buying a couple more than you need at the time, expecially if it saves you shipping.

I used to do this with oil for my R6, go to the dealer, get a bunch of filters and 'no name' oil right out of the barrel (same as a certain AHEM 'branded' oil on the shelf) and I'm set for about 4 or 5 oil changes for the price of 2 or 3. Works out good in the long term. I'm probably going to be a lot fussier about the oil I put in my duc though.
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: rockaduc on August 05, 2008, 03:23:24 AM
Quote from: meano_lover on August 04, 2008, 11:23:54 AM
hi all, i hit a rock yesterday that put a pinhole in my ducati oil filter, looking for a new one, but find it hard to pay 27 dollars at the dealer. is there a cross reference for oil filters? i know there's a post in the "Alternatives to expensive Ducati parts" forum here in tech for fuel filters, but oil filters maybe? any help is appreciated. thanks!
I had the same thing happen to me 3 weeks ago.  Luckily I didn't crash...sounds like you didn't either which is good.  K & N oil filters are pretty cheap online...about $15.00.
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: mmakay on August 05, 2008, 07:29:04 AM
Here is the most complete list I could find.  I last used the NAPA filter, and at that time it was made by Mann of Germany.  Excellent quality for about $7.

US available: (exact)
  K & N KN-153
  Perf-Form DUC-1
  Athena FFP011 (Ducati OEM)
  Scott's Performance (permanent washable replacement)

US available: (near exact, fits fine.  length may vary)
Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A)
  Purolator ML16829C (was FC 103 or OC 5)
  AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)
  Motorcraft EFL 47
  NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)

Non US:
  Champion H101
  Cooper Z64
  Powertrain FL125
  Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059
  Purflux LS187
  Halfords HOF216
  Tecafilter Ref OC5
  Technocar R12, R72, R434
  Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)
  TJ FB2094
  Mann & H W712/9, W712/11
  Unipart GFE 201
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: meano_lover on August 05, 2008, 07:35:20 AM
thanks everybody! i went down to my local cycle gear and they had a k&n for about 14. so i swooped up the last 3 they had in stock. i'm not so pleased with my local duc dealer.


mmakay- sweet list, maybe post it to the stickied topic above?
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: MotoPsycho on August 05, 2008, 03:29:08 PM
Good cross reference list I ran across a long time ago - glad I kept it now.


AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)   
Motorcraft EFL 47
Champion H101   
NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)
Cooper Z64
Powertrain FL125
Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059   
Purflux LS187
Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A)   
Purolator ML16829C (was FC 103 or OC 5)
Halfords HOF216   
Tecafilter Ref OC5
K & N KN-153   
Technocar R12, R72, R434
Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)   TJ FB2094
Mann & H W712/9, W712/11   
Unipart GFE 201
Title: Re: oil filter cross reference?
Post by: Desmo Demon on August 06, 2008, 04:42:04 AM
I switched to using the K&N simply for the welded nut on the end of it. It makes removal sooooo easy.

Here's an interesting tidbit......if you are in a crunch and on a trip somewhere and NEED a filter but cannot find one, go to the local Harley-Davidson dealer.......yes, the local Harley dealer......There are certain mid-80's Harleys that use similar filters. I use the K&N 153 on my '85 FXEF, also.

(So, if you want a chrome filter for your Duc, you can use K&N 172C)   [laugh]

The differences are that the KN-153 has a 1.45 psi higher pressure relief valve and is 0.209" (6mm) longer than the KN-172C. The KN-172C also does not have an anti drain back valve (so an OEM Harley filter should have similar specs to the KN-172C). The last time I bought a filter from the HD dealer, the black one was $5-$6. I think the old 100k+ mile engine can use the higher pressure that the KN-153 supplies, though


KN-153 specs...
Product Style: Oil Filters
Height: 3.331 in (85 mm)
Outside Diameter: 3.059 in (78 mm)
Thread Inside Diameter: M16 x 1.5
PSI Relief Valve: 15.08
Anti Drain Back Valve: Yes
Style: Canister
Weight: 0.7 lb (0.3 kg)
Product Box Length: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Width: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Height: 3.5 in (89 mm)

KN-172C specs...
Product Style: Oil Filters
Height: 3.122 in (79 mm)
Outside Diameter: 3.059 in (78 mm)
Thread Inside Diameter: M16 x 1.5
PSI Relief Valve: 13.63
Anti Drain Back Valve: No
Style: Canister
Finish: Chrome
Weight: 0.6 lb (0.3 kg)
Product Box Length: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Width: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Height: 3.25 in (83 mm)