On a Motorcyclist.
Came upon the accident in my cage.
Bike on the ground. Rider on the ground.
Myself and a Paramedic first on scene.
No pulse, not breathing.
Did CPR until the ambulance took him to the Hospital.
Word is he did not make it. >:( :'( :'( :'(
RIP man
Quote from: GotDuc on August 07, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
On a Motorcyclist.
Came upon the accident in my cage.
Bike on the ground. Rider on the ground.
Myself and a Paramedic first on scene.
No pulse, not breathing.
Did CPR until the ambulance took him to the Hospital.
Word is he did not make it. >:( :'( :'( :'(
RIP man
That sucks man, I'm sorry.
Balls.
Good on ya for knowing what to do in a shitty situation.
Still...
Balls.
That really sucks, overall. But it was good that you were there to at least give him a chance. Rest in Peace.
Ah...sorry man. :(
Good on you for stopping, I only wish that the results were different.
21 years old. Sad.
:(
rip biker kid
[thumbsup] on stepping in to help
The world needs more good samaritans.
Quote from: bobspapa on August 07, 2008, 03:30:44 PM
rip biker kid
[thumbsup] on stepping in to help
That must have been awful. You did the best you could, and I'm sure his family appreciates that you tried to save him. Not many people would have stopped to help. I can only imagine what you must be feeling right now. I'm so sorry to hear this. :'(
RIP unknown biker
Good for you giving aid, I doubt I could do it in the same situation.
RIP fellow biker
mitt
you did a good thing stopping an aiding assistance, its always a bad situation to be in and its commendable you stepped up to the plate.
R.I.P
RIP rider - good on you for stopping and helping out.
Harsh man, makes you think twice about life when you see that shat. :'(
Good on ya for stopping, most would keep on going [thumbsup]
still thinking about it.
Don't think I will sleep too much tonight.
Quote from: SSSA on August 07, 2008, 04:31:43 PM
The world needs more good samaritans.
Amen!!
GotDuc..at least you took the initiative!! Good on you!
Jim, Try and get some sleep, please!
You went above and beyond as a person today - and you deserve all the credit in the world for just trying.
I hope to see you at the NYMMC meet on Sunday - you won't be paying for a thing that morning! [thumbsup]
Breakfast is on us!!!
your a hero for stepping up... sorry it ended the way it did. rest in peace
Sorry to hear that, RIP rider. :(
Thanks for trying your best. [thumbsup]
You did right.
Have a a beer. It'll help.
You gave that kid a fighting chance.
That is all anyone could of done.
Hope you ended up getting some sleep last night.
RIP, kid.
Quote from: mitt on August 07, 2008, 04:38:44 PM
Good for you giving aid, I doubt I could do it in the same situation.
I always wondered if I could as well. That's gotta be really tough. Good for you for helping him put up a fight. [thumbsup]
RIP fellow rider... :-\
Quote from: GotDuc on August 07, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
Did CPR until the ambulance took him to the Hospital.
Word is he did not make it. ....RIP man
Sorry you had to witness that, but you did well.
Don't beat yourself up about it, either. IIRC, there is a very low percentage rate of survival if CPR is necessary....something like 30%. I will assume since the other guy was a paramedic that he had the breath-mask with one-way valve and you were the one to do compressions?
I was once the first responder to a crash that I actually witnessed. A group of us decided to move the car out of the way instead of moving the guy who was hanging out of the door.....that was when we found his passenger under the car. It wasn't pretty. I was first responder trianed in CPR and First Aid and there wasn't much I could do for either of them. I left a couple of minutes later after the ambulance and paramedics got there.....This was in 2001, right after the Daytona 200. The track was letting out and this was abotu 2-3 blocks from the track, so emergency personnel was there in a hurry. I checked a few days later and the driver lived and the passenger was DOA....I'm sure before we ever picked the car up off of him.
[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Don't feel bad you are the shit! There is nothing you could've have done to change the result.
You did what most would not! You gave an opportunity that otherwise wouldn't have been there...Good on ya!
Hopefully the word was wrong...but in case it is not...RIP
Good for your for not being a lemming.
You stepped up to help anyway you could and I commend you for that.
Quote from: GotDuc on August 07, 2008, 07:34:05 PM
still thinking about it.
Don't think I will sleep too much tonight.
Will this experience change you as a rider? I was wondering if it will be hard for you to get back onto a bike? It would be for me.
mitt
I slept good last night.
was tough to see a young kid like that on the ground (21 years old)
I know I did all I could.
Seeing this face to face (and believe me CPR is a face to face thing) is tough.
The papers are saying it was speed and inexperience that lead to it.
But it has one wondering that life really is short and riding is dangerous.
Quote from: mitt on August 08, 2008, 09:27:13 AM
Will this experience change you as a rider? I was wondering if it will be hard for you to get back onto a bike? It would be for me.
mitt
The NYMMC has a ride on Sunday so I will see if I am up to ride.
Good on you for stepping up to the plate when it mattered. I only hope that I would respond in a similar fashion if the need ever arose. Too bad it didn't turn out better but unfortunately we don't get to decide how these things turn out.
R.I.P. young biker guy
Speed and inexperience is a killer for anyone on any road whether on two or four wheels. You're to be commended for stopping and attempting to save a life. It's time for me to get CPR certified.....you never know when you may need it.
Later
there is no fault, only result of judgement and behavior. doing is commendable. not doing is shameful. we all must rest sometime. these are facts.
Because of my work, there tend to be tons of physicians and EMT's around so it's been rare that I've been a first responder on a scene. I did do CPR on my aunt after, it turned out, her lung cancer eroded through her subclavian artery (so nothing I could do at home would've helped). That's the only time I've ever done CPR, including in the hospital.
The first accident scene I ever stopped at was when I'd just finished my first aid instructor course in high school. A car had hit a tractor-trailer on an overpass and submarined under the trailer. There was a cop directing traffic around but nobody actually doing anything near the vehicles. The cop told me to get away and that they'd already called it in as a DOA, but I decided to look anyway. The driver had been able to lie down across the front seat just before impact and had been belted in. Nobody had even really checked, and he was conscious and terrified. When I told the cop the driver disagreed about being DOA, he barely looked embarrassed at all. I spent the next half-hour pulling windshield off the guy so it didn't smother him as much until the ambulance arrived. The crew told me nobody had ever notified them it wasn't a DOA.
I don't think the rate of positive outcomes in community-performed CPR is anywhere near as high as 30%, but I could be wrong. No matter what, the rate is far lower if nobody even tries at all.
Sorry the outcome wasn't good, but in my opinion the most important thing is that somebody tried. Thank you on behalf of the rest of the world for trying.