Anyone fitted this, if so what are your opinions?
http://www.drdesmo.com/quietclutch.htm
Nope...
Looks to be high quality, and the do go the extra step of grinding the driven plates.. but I don't really so how that would quiet anything. Might make for more even wear in the long run... might.
it is true that aluminum drive plates tend to be quieter than the OEM steel ones and don't beat up the basket as fast.
But at $150 more per pack than some other stuff on the market.. that's a hard sell.
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I jsut went back and looked at the price page. I'm not sure which is accurate, but the price page lists $325 for a clutch pack... that's outlandish. More than twice a barnett kit
That's priced a little steep imho. Try the desmotimes version - aluminum basket and Barnett clutch pack for $409.
I have it and it is quieter than a stock version.
How much quieter is the Desmotimes quiet clutch than the OEM?
If you want quiet, why buy a dry clutch to begin with? [roll]
Quote from: Monstermash on August 12, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
If you want quiet, why buy a dry clutch to begin with? [roll]
FYI, The noise is your clutch banging itself apart. A machined / matched basket and plates will be quieter fully open than a closed stock clutch.
Adam
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on August 12, 2008, 08:52:44 PM
FYI, The noise is your clutch banging itself apart. A machined / matched basket and plates will be quieter fully open than a closed stock clutch.
Adam
The noise is actually the tangs on the friction plates banging into the basket as they wear out. I don't care how it's matched or machined it will wear out over time and you will have a noisy clutch.
Quote from: Monstermash on August 13, 2008, 06:19:03 AM
The noise is actually the tangs on the friction plates banging into the basket as they wear out. I don't care how it's matched or machined it will wear out over time and you will have a noisy clutch.
[roll] Whatever, not worth arguing over. You've already got Scottie for that :-*
Adam
Quote from: 944SSie on August 12, 2008, 08:23:16 PM
How much quieter is the Desmotimes quiet clutch than the OEM?
A decent amount. But there's a ton of variables at play when it comes to clutch noise.
Plate material
Basket Material
# of teeth on the plates/basket
wear on the plates/basket
Open or closed cover.
Desmo times used to offer (maybe still do) a basket and plate combo deal - where the plates had been hand fit to the basket by filing down the teeth on the plates to fit as exactly as possible. The minimized the jingle effect - but there's no real way to eliminate it.
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on August 13, 2008, 06:47:51 AM
[roll] Whatever, not worth arguing over. You've already got Scottie for that :-*
Adam
Oh, sorry you took that statement in that context. :-* Lol
I wasn't trying to argue, just merely stating a fact. [beer]
Quote from: Monstermash on August 12, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
If you want quiet, why buy a dry clutch to begin with? [roll]
So I need a Kawasaki, ;D Judging by the price of the clutch kits might be cheaper too...
Quote from: Monstermash on August 13, 2008, 07:44:31 AM
I wasn't trying to argue, just merely stating a fact. [beer]
Not really, have you ever heard a full monty properly set up matched dry clutch? With an open cover they're whisper quiet.
Adam
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on August 13, 2008, 08:41:53 AM
Not really, have you ever heard a full monty properly set up matched dry clutch? With an open cover they're whisper quiet.
Adam
I can't honestly say I have. And I have no doubt that they are super quite when they are new. But the burning question is what happens when they start to wear out? It is inevitable right? Or has someone figured out a way to make a wear item not wear out? ???
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on August 13, 2008, 08:41:53 AM
Not really, have you ever heard a full monty properly set up matched dry clutch? With an open cover they're whisper quiet.
Adam
Out of interest, what quiet dry clutch would you recommend?
Quote from: Manx on August 13, 2008, 01:12:08 PM
Out of interest, what quiet dry clutch would you recommend?
LT's full monty kit. I've heard and used one, they are awesome and shed a
TON of rotating mass. I'll be buying one after a few other ... Upgrades [evil]
He's got a few options ranging from stage 1 to ... Silly $1000 superlight style:
Full Monty: http://www.desmotimes.com/thefullmonty.htm (http://www.desmotimes.com/thefullmonty.htm)
Baskets Alone: http://www.desmotimes.com/product3.htm (http://www.desmotimes.com/product3.htm)
Every Stage: http://www.desmotimes.com/clutch_products.htm (http://www.desmotimes.com/clutch_products.htm)
Adam
What Monstermash said.
As they wear and tolerance increased, the tabs bang the basket and makes more and more noise. The Barnett packs (red material) I've used lately are very quite when new, but get louder and louder - it's a Ducati thing. [thumbsup] The after market plates I've used (Barnett) don't last as long as OEM, but they are a whole lot cheaper. Put the stock clutch cover back on.
I think I'm going back to OEM next time.
LA