Speaking of wheel swaps, what about brake swaps? I'd love, when the time comes to replace rotors, to go with the better setup that comes on the S4Rs or any similar system which might be on one of the superbikes. Ideas?
Well you could bolt on a set of brakes from a 999. Get the masters from one too. You'd pick up radial masters and 4-pad 4-piston calipers. You'd probably need some different brake lines made up. But those calipers use the same mounts as your bike and same rotor dia and offset.
To get radial mounted calipers will cost you a lot more. You'd need new fork ends and possibly a different wheel on top of different rotors.
Braketech iron rotors, 4-pad calipers, a new line, and a radial master if you really want to.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 15, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
Braketech iron rotors, 4-pad calipers, a new line, and a radial master if you really want to.
Yeah! I'm going with those rotors and the ceramic pads when I burn thru the pads on my S4RS (or before my next track day if I can swing it). LA has convinced me.
Thanks for the advice, guys!
you can get a kit from d/p that has the 4 pad calipers in gold (not silver like on the 999) with the correct brake hose and banjo bolts and washers specifically to suit the S4R, i have it with the std master cylinder and iron rotors and stoppies are too easy!!!! ;D
paul. [thumbsup]
Quote from: yuu on August 15, 2008, 07:03:16 AM
Well you could bolt on a set of brakes from a 999. Get the masters from one too. You'd pick up radial masters and 4-pad 4-piston calipers. You'd probably need some different brake lines made up. But those calipers use the same mounts as your bike and same rotor dia and offset.
To get radial mounted calipers will cost you a lot more. You'd need new fork ends and possibly a different wheel on top of different rotors.
Ahhh...You beat me to it Yuu!
I'm guessing you like the brakes on my....er.....your bike?
Quote from: yuu on August 15, 2008, 07:03:16 AM
Well you could bolt on a set of brakes from a 999. Get the masters from one too. You'd pick up radial masters and 4-pad 4-piston calipers. You'd probably need some different brake lines made up. But those calipers use the same mounts as your bike and same rotor dia and offset.
To get radial mounted calipers will cost you a lot more. You'd need new fork ends and possibly a different wheel on top of different rotors.
This is exactly what I did, and it turned out nice. The new setup has more power, but very good feel as well. Just don't do like me and spend an afternoon measuring for custom brake lines, only to write down the wrong numbers on the drawing. Doh!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2472035161_7d096340f0_o.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/2472850864_2184df1d88_o.jpg)
Fred at Yoyodyne sells everything Brembo you can imagine and he is very knowledgeable on what works and doesn't.
I really like the BrakeTech iron floaters w/carbon cp211 pads, but having said that the stock brakes that come on a S4RS (4piston 4 pads) are pretty awesome. Takes changing the fork bottoms though, which is sorta spensive. Fred carries all that stuff.
Check prices. The best after market rotors are cheaper than OEM.
LA
Quote from: Cider on August 17, 2008, 09:18:25 AM
This is exactly what I did, and it turned out nice. The new setup has more power, but very good feel as well. Just don't do like me and spend an afternoon measuring for custom brake lines, only to write down the wrong numbers on the drawing. Doh!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2472035161_7d096340f0_o.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/2472850864_2184df1d88_o.jpg)
Thats not a real radial mount... its just a radial mount for the brakes that mounts umm.. non radially? lol Where did you get that piece? looks werid! pretty cool though.
Quote from: He Man on August 18, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
Thats not a real radial mount... its just a radial mount for the brakes that mounts umm.. non radially? lol Where did you get that piece? looks werid! pretty cool though.
AFAIK, that's the standard mounting bracket for radial calipers on aftermarket Ohlins forks.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 18, 2008, 10:01:11 PM
AFAIK, that's the standard mounting bracket for radial calipers on aftermarket Ohlins forks.
i think it's the ohlins mounting point for the various caliper mounting brackets, so you can buy those forks with a bracket kit to suit the brake set up you want to use.
paul.
Its a conversion kit and introduces a second bolted joint vs a radial caliper fork bottom.
Quote from: He Man on August 18, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
Thats not a real radial mount... its just a radial mount for the brakes that mounts umm.. non radially? lol Where did you get that piece? looks werid! pretty cool though.
R&T forks with Cycle Cat brackets (not made any more) and radial calipers from a 999.
Quote from: Capo on August 19, 2008, 01:26:02 AM
Its a conversion kit and introduces a second bolted joint vs a radial caliper fork bottom.
The second bolted joint is there for axial calipers too. That's just how the R&T forks used to be. The big difference is that new fork bottoms start around $1000, and I got the Cycle Cat brackets on close-out for about $55.
didn't the radial calipers come on the 1098? i thought the 999 had the 60mm spaced 4 pad brembos?
paul.
Quote from: loony888 on August 20, 2008, 01:32:08 AM
didn't the radial calipers come on the 1098? i thought the 999 had the 60mm spaced 4 pad brembos?
Yes, I think you're right: the 999 had axial calipers. The 999r and some of the later 999s models had radial calipers though. I bought the calipers used, and I think the ad said they came from a 999s (or was it a 749r?) but I can't remember for sure. In any case, last time I checked they were plentiful on eBay for reasonable prices. In fact, used axial 4-pad calipers were going for the same price as used radials when I got mine. I think the axial 4-pads are harder to find used.
Quote from: Cider on August 20, 2008, 06:33:24 AM
Yes, I think you're right: the 999 had axial calipers. The 999r and some of the later 999s models had radial calipers though. I bought the calipers used, and I think the ad said they came from a 999s (or was it a 749r?) but I can't remember for sure. In any case, last time I checked they were plentiful on eBay for reasonable prices. In fact, used axial 4-pad calipers were going for the same price as used radials when I got mine. I think the axial 4-pads are harder to find used.
probably because they are an awesome upgrade that bolts straight on to a LOT of different bikes!!
paul.