addressing SOMEBODY'S exhaust concerns...

[fastwin]

Now that's funny!!! Wish they could make a Ducati sticker look like that! Maybe that's what Termi translates to in english!!!

[♣ McKraut ♣]

got my flashed ECU in yesterday from desmo porche, but the rains hit after work.  hopefully it will stay clear enough for me to try it out today and see how it's working.  with any luck, i'll even be able to throw in a chopped airbox lid... but first things first.

[TresGatos]

got my flashed ECU in yesterday from desmo porche, but the rains hit after work.  hopefully it will stay clear enough for me to try it out today and see how it's working.  with any luck, i'll even be able to throw in a chopped airbox lid... but first things first.

The weather is nice. Let us know how it went

[Louis]

Bummer! I missed the beginning of this thread, can I still play? Ill piss in everyones cheerios... LOL!

The DP ECU is TOO rich, everywhere, across the board. It doesnt make power like a properly tuned Nemesis or Microtec will make. It shouldnt, its an OEM flash that THOUSANDS buy. Why chance it with a lean(er) air/fuel, or aggressive ignition map? IF DNA warranties DP parts, why would you risk blowing up an engine? Something that comes with a warranty IS NOT going to be radical. I get it. No problem there.

For ME, someone who KNOWS engine management and tuning as well as being a very competent engine calibrator, I need access to my ECU. Microtec is good, but its still new. Nemesis is good, but its older yet its proven.

I didnt like Ducshops answers to my questions- I need an airbox pressure offset/modifier. Its AlphaN, TPS vs RPM, its got no MAP sensor to offset your VE table or even modify the airmass table based off of outside forces! Ram air does dirty things to mixtures, and its a calibrators nightmare if not given the right tools to make it happen.

I have my own dyno. Ive tuned many a PCs, and you know what, its a pain in the ass. I wouldnt let just any tech touch a PC... if you dont spend the time with it, or know what you are doing, its Effed. period. Thats why some run well, and others dont. A good tune will do wonders.

Jeff likes DP stuff because it works. Its tried and true, and plug and play. Sure, theres something to be said about that, definitely.


However, didnt he try a nemesis not too long ago Marty?  Its hard to teach an old dog new tricks, but show him to a new doggie bone pantry and he will change

As for Termis quality? its production stuff. Its Mig welded, not Tig'ed. Akra stuff is Tig'ed. Its lighter, and prettier.

I built my own slip ons. Cory dubbed them the F1 pipes....
http://www.youtube.com/user/7223louigi#p/u/3/5ZDy89KXm0g

It made more power, and sounds a lot better than stock.

For the track? Yea, shes all stock. way too much power for me as a beginner with a full termi setup


In the end? You need to see what YOU want to do with the bike. whats important to you? What matters the most? Figure out the pros and cons, and decide for yourself whats best. Not every rider is the same, nor is every consumer going to have the same budget, standards or goals.

Louis

[Louis]

FYI, this is all related to SBK stuff, 1x98 family to be exact.

[♣ McKraut ♣]

took it up the tollway last night en route to burgers and beers... and even when i was trying to get it to pop like it used to, i couldn't.  there was an occasional pop here or there on decel, but i think once i get the exhaust tightly sealed up, it'll be perfect.  and maybe it was some kind of placebo effect, but i felt like i could definitely notice better acceleration all-around.  though i didn't test out the increased rev limit.

oh, and no more immobilizer   

[junior varsity]

Haha, very cool. Louis - I want to come play on your Dyno. I've got this tricked out 04 Malibu... (kidding).

I think another part to factor into the puzzle is that many buyers finance their bike purchase. Over the 60mo loan period, a full termi setup is less than an additional $20/mo. I think of it as a case of beer less on one weekend, and I've got the bike with the sound I like.

[muskrat]

Your beer standards suck!  Natural light is far cheaper

[junior varsity]

a buddy brought me the bud ice last night. cheap and ever so slightly stronger. Its no OE800, but it does the yob.