If there an SS market for Ducati?

[Curmudgeon]

it seems if it doesn't net a noticeable performance increase it's hard to argue against.

Et tu Brute?!

Since you could probably write your own book on the pros and cons, do it again and find me another Twin which has similar low CG characteristics and powerband. Intuitively, at least to me, a springer alternative which WORKED might cost even more.

Sure, springs are more reliable that in "olden time" but you still have to deal with all the frictional losses and a valve train which can't be controlled with the same accuracy. IMO there is no advantage, and I've ridden springer Ducatis, 250 (owned), 350 and 450 from the last batch Ducati made.

Want to ride my T-100? Better yet, try a F-Series Rotax. Agreed however, no real advantage in an I-4. Always wanted to try that 90 degree Laverda V-6 though.  One-of-a-kind Laverda V6 in action

[Curmudgeon]

Isn't that basically the sport classics?

A Sport Classic is a little bit TOO close to a REAL classic.  Nothing like your old 796 chassis really which handles much more like my 600 SL.

[ducatiz]

Isn't that basically the sport classics?

no.  im talking about using the EXACT same bike except for the tank, headlight and fairings.  probably have to change the seat too.

it could be an aftermarket kit even...

[Privateer]

it seems if it doesn't net a noticeable performance increase it's hard to argue against.

when all people do is look at HP, quarter mile, and 0-100 times they don't really give a crap about that other stuff.

I actually sat down with someone and calculated out all the 'extra' cost of owning a duc.  At least on a 2v, it all came down to 12k valve adjustment(opposed to 15-20k for varying i4's), belt changes, and a slightly more frequent chain/sprocket replacement.  The unfamiliarity of some systems just freaks people out.  I had someone completely against the idea of a hydraulic clutch no matter how much evidence I had to their advantages.

I think the biggest stigma is 1) lack of parts availability both from the dealer, from the aftermarket, and used (ebay, CL, etc) and 2) fewer (or zero, based on your location) independent mechanics who work on them.

Add the additional problems of a perceived lower parts spec on the 'smaller' bikes, even if there is no performance advantage, and you have a pretty easy argument AGAINST buying a duc for someone with a more frugal budget.  My contention is that most people don't own a particular bike long enough to really see a considerable difference.

[ducatiz]

Et tu Brute?!

Since you could probably write your own book on the pros and cons, do it again and find me another Twin which has similar low CG characteristics and powerband. Intuitively, at least to me, a springer alternative which WORKED might cost even more.

Sure, springs are more reliable that in "olden time" but you still have to deal with all the frictional losses and a valve train which can't be controlled with the same accuracy. IMO there is no advantage, and I've ridden springer Ducatis, 250 (owned), 350 and 450 from the last batch Ducati made.

Want to ride my T-100? Better yet, try a F-Series Rotax. Agreed however, no real advantage in an I-4. Always wanted to try that 90 degree Laverda V-6 though.  One-of-a-kind Laverda V6 in action

:-)

Laverda V6