USA Redbull MotoGP - Laguna Seca - Sunday @ Motopia

[never2loud]

lisa i thought you were a big rossi fan. i could care less about either of them. i mean i hope ducati wins but the guy i like just isn't that good in gp. i would like to see casey run rossi like that and see what he has to say in post race and when he cries about it they should remind him of what he did. at that point you will see if he is a real racer or a guy who can dish it out but can't take it. nothing a little post race ass whooping wouldn't solve. if that was my career i don't think i could have somebody wreck (or even almost wreck) me w/o some behind the scenes discussion. i could handle a little leanin a little rubbin but don't wreck me. how many times have you seen a guy having a really good year get caught up in someone elses mess then...bang! suddenly the engine fails next race, then another accident, by then he's snake bite and at the end of the year he's looking for work.

Nope.  Never been much of a fan for Rossi.  That was an awesome ride though - if you could somehow exclude that whole Corkscrew schmozl    Guess I'm more of a Ducati fan than anything else. 

Hmmm, imagine that 

[cdc]

good thing i learned this watching the race the yesterday, i always was wondering
haha

I took notes>

cdc

[cdc]

Nope.  Never been much of a fan for Rossi.  That was an awesome ride though - if you could somehow exclude that whole Corkscrew schmozl    Guess I'm more of a Ducati fan than anything else. 

Hmmm, imagine that 

me too.  what she said!

cdc

[Giannis]

i would like to see casey run rossi like that and see what he has to say in post race and when he cries about it they should remind him of what he did. at that point you will see if he is a real racer or a guy who can dish it out but can't take it. nothing a little post race ass whooping wouldn't solve.

Watch this a bit old for most of you but was very exiting to see it live back then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne842cT34oo

Rossi is on the Yellow NSR500, Biaggi rides the Marlboro YZR500 all that in Suzuka 7 years ago...

[cdc]

That was it. 

Replays then showed a close up of Rossi leaned over and flipping Biaggi the bird.   

Both got fined for unsportsman-like conduct.

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[fastwin]

Jeez, if FIM started fining everyone that flipped Biaggi off then they all would be broke!

[Giannis]

Jeez, if FIM started fining everyone that flipped Biaggi off then they all would be broke!

Good one 

Anyone remember this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq1lIah0cXw

[Jester]

I'm sorry but that was the most irresponsible thing I've seen in a long time, especially from a multi-time World Champion. 

I hope Stoner kicks his ass.

I really disagree.  They get paid millions of dollars to race hard and win.  Stoner could just as easily stuff his bike under Rossi and block pass in the same manner.  Rossi has been using block pass tactics for years.  Rossi was passing Stoner at turn 6 with ease.  The corkscrew has seen that kind of action in many, many races over the years.  Watch AMA and you'll see that exact same scenario happen on that part of the track.  Spies and Mladin don't pregnant dog, they just claim its hard racing.  Keep in mind that coming up to the corkscrew, Stoner leans his bike into Rossi coming off the previous turn.  Its not like Stoner isn't racing aggressively.

The only reason Stoner moaned about it is because that was the first real time he's been challenged at the front in over a year.  He's used to running with a huge cushion and flipped out when someone had the balls to play rough with him.  If Stoner is running faster laps by about 3/10ths, then why isn't he stuffing it under Rossi the same way Rossi stuffs it under him with an admittedly slower bike?  There is no reason Stoner can't win that race other than he just sucks on the brakes and can't do the same maneuvers.

I think winning tough battles like that, pushing yourself to the limits, and coming out on top is what legitimizes your work as a racer.  In the end, Stoner came into turn 11 too hot and dumped his bike on his own without any pressure other than frustration of not being able to pass Rossi and make it stick.  There is a difference between turning fast lap times alone on the track and turning fast lap times while trying to get around someone.

Stoner is a tough kid, and I'm sure will learn from this race and try to dish it out in the future, like he took it this last weekend.  I expect him to push his bike so hard so that he doesn't have to race anyone again.  He likes winning by big margins b/c he doesn't have to actually race anyone.

Honestly, I think the only reason Stoner was so pissed, was due to him dropping his bike at turn 11.  My gut says if he finishes the race in second place, on Rossi's ass, he would have said "good race."  Its more the scenario with which he came in second... not the fact he lost.

[cdc]

Good one 

Anyone remember this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq1lIah0cXw

That was Nicky Hayden in the red honda and Colin Edwards in the yellow Yamaha at Assen last year?  This year, Nicky runs out of gas while in 3rd in front of Colin who then passes him at the line?

What a race

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[bryant8]

I really disagree.  They get paid millions of dollars to race hard and win.  Stoner could just as easily stuff his bike under Rossi and block pass in the same manner.  Rossi has been using block pass tactics for years.  Rossi was passing Stoner at turn 6 with ease.  The corkscrew has seen that kind of action in many, many races over the years.  Watch AMA and you'll see that exact same scenario happen on that part of the track.  Spies and Mladin don't pregnant dog, they just claim its hard racing.  Keep in mind that coming up to the corkscrew, Stoner leans his bike into Rossi coming off the previous turn.  Its not like Stoner isn't racing aggressively.

The only reason Stoner moaned about it is because that was the first real time he's been challenged at the front in over a year.  He's used to running with a huge cushion and flipped out when someone had the balls to play rough with him.  If Stoner is running faster laps by about 3/10ths, then why isn't he stuffing it under Rossi the same way Rossi stuffs it under him with an admittedly slower bike?  There is no reason Stoner can't win that race other than he just sucks on the brakes and can't do the same maneuvers.

I think winning tough battles like that, pushing yourself to the limits, and coming out on top is what legitimizes your work as a racer.  In the end, Stoner came into turn 11 too hot and dumped his bike on his own without any pressure other than frustration of not being able to pass Rossi and make it stick.  There is a difference between turning fast lap times alone on the track and turning fast lap times while trying to get around someone.

Stoner is a tough kid, and I'm sure will learn from this race and try to dish it out in the future, like he took it this last weekend.  I expect him to push his bike so hard so that he doesn't have to race anyone again.  He likes winning by big margins b/c he doesn't have to actually race anyone.

Honestly, I think the only reason Stoner was so pissed, was due to him dropping his bike at turn 11.  My gut says if he finishes the race in second place, on Rossi's ass, he would have said "good race."  Its more the scenario with which he came in second... not the fact he lost.

I agree with ya there Jacob.  Great racing is more than the time trial of qualifying.  I think Rossi just had the perfect tactic to keep Stoner from running away. 

[Giannis]

That was Nicky Hayden in the red honda and Colin Edwards in the yellow Yamaha at Assen last year?  This year, Nicky runs out of gas while in 3rd in front of Colin who then passes him at the line?

What a race

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Actually the accident was in 2006  and i believe the  new name of the last 2 corners in Assen now is "Karma esses " 

[Jester]

Yeah, too bad for Edwards there.  That was one of his only shots at a win in MotoGP.  He just couldn't close the deal.

[Duc L'Smart]

Yeah, too bad for Edwards there.  That was one of his only shots at a win in MotoGP.  He just couldn't close the deal.

Good to hear from you Jacob How's life?!?