Utah - Graduated MC licensing coming soon?

[He Man]

That is no different from what I've been saying. Whether it's a particular class of motorcycle or a power/weight or CC based, they're all a different kind of graduated licensing system. Graduated in that case may not be the appropriate word of course but they all seek to obtain the same result. We're going to keep insufficiently trained people off bikes they can't handle. The dependency with a class based license is that the training & testing is sufficient and appropriate. Do we have any faith that the gub'ment would be able to achieve this? I don't. Power/weight based system is at least a little objective. How long you're on a smaller license could be controlled by passing tests or whatever and we're then dependent on DOT/NTSB people to come up with a viable system of course but that's where the MSF comes in. You're on a .5/1 (let's say) power to weight until you pass the MSF, then you can go to .75/1 and then pass the ARC or Lee Parks (or whatever) and you're open. There'd need to be weight limits otherwise just about every HD ever made would be in the learner category which of course is stupid. Of course, given that they're all limiting in some way, these same issues apply in all cases (class, power/weight, cc). I don't really mind which, anything is better than noobs on busas IMO.

As for personal responsibility, I completely agree. Personal responsibility is something that is sorely lacking and should be encouraged. I'm a skydiver, I know about personal responsibility. What most of the personal responsibility arguments neglect to mention however is that the affects of ineffective licensing flows on to everyone else in the form of insurance costs, ridiculous laws and an overall perception in the wider community that motorcyclists are basically crazy. This perception affects us all and just saying "personal responsibility" doesn't even begin to scratch the surface because so many people actively avoid personal responsibility and that affects us all. Many of these people would still attempt to avoid it but then it would become very easy to distinguish between those people and the people who are doing the right thing and getting appropriately licensed. Not to say that would be the end of it but inaction doesn't do anything for us either.

For the record, the AMA agrees, the status quo is the way as far as they're concerned.

Probably just my ADD Kicking in. That post makes sense to me.

Personal repsonsibility is lacking in the US. It is why people try to sue mcdonalds for making them fat. It is why people sue a gun company because they produce a weapon that is designed to propel bullets. There are infintely more problems then there are solutions for the whole topic of "personal responsibility". Well the main solution is called insurance. and everyone pays for the cost of it.