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Installing a new fuel tank - info needed!

Started by Monster Dave, October 15, 2008, 03:53:31 PM

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Monster Dave

Quote from: yuu on October 16, 2008, 05:41:39 PM
Yeah - sorry to bear bad news.  I've got a steel tank era FI Monster and that pump is definitely inside that tank... other wise I've got electrical wires running into a gas filled container for no good reason. 

As He man pointed out, there is a big difference in the pumps from steel to the plastics - but that all live inside the thank.

Thanks for the clarification guys. I'll get my first glimpse at my new tank this evening. It is a used tank but not a repaired tank, so now I'm ultimatly curious if it came with a (working) pump in it or if I'll have to swap the one in my old tank.

???

Monster Dave

OK, so I got my new tank which is awesome, but I haven't yet installed it. However, looking in the Monster 620 Dark fuel system diagram in the Ducati Parts Manual (page 81), the fuel pump (2) is clearly shown just outside of the tank below mounting clamp (8).

My new and old tanks are identical to the one in the parts manual; down to each individual clamp, bracket and hose. So I'm confused about why so many people have told me that the pump is inside the tank. Is this a variation in the Dark model only?


Capo

The parts diagram is an 'exploded' view (notice how the fuel cap is 'levitating' above the tank). The pump and filter ARE inside the tank. If your new tank is complete, then its plug and play. If not, then you will have to strip out the old and fit in the new. Not hard to do but the filler cap iring can be a pregnant dog to get back in if you don't know the technique, probably best left to a dealer.

More info with pics of tank interior here.http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=12274.0


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Monster Dave

Quote from: Capo on October 21, 2008, 11:29:53 AM
The parts diagram is an 'exploded' view (notice how the fuel cap is 'levitating' above the tank). The pump and filter ARE inside the tank. If your new tank is complete, then its plug and play. If not, then you will have to strip out the old and fit in the new. Not hard to do but the filler cap iring can be a pregnant dog to get back in if you don't know the technique, probably best left to a dealer.

More info with pics of tank interior here.http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=12274.0

Alright, until I get it serviced I'll just take your word for it since I haven't gotten into my old one yet. Can the fuel filters be transfered?

Capo

Quote from: Monster Dave on October 21, 2008, 11:40:39 AM
Alright, until I get it serviced I'll just take your word for it since I haven't gotten into my old one yet. Can the fuel filters be transfered?

Yes but for the cost involved, put a new one in.


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Monster Dave

Quote from: Capo on October 21, 2008, 12:05:47 PM
Yes but for the cost involved, put a new one in.

Do they tend to be pretty cheap?

ducpainter

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Rameses

Quote from: Monster Dave on October 21, 2008, 11:05:39 AM
OK, so I got my new tank which is awesome, but I haven't yet installed it. However, looking in the Monster 620 Dark fuel system diagram in the Ducati Parts Manual (page 81), the fuel pump (2) is clearly shown just outside of the tank below mounting clamp ( 8 ).




So that line of reasoning leads us to deduce that the fuel pick-up screen (4) is located outside of the tank too then, right?   ;)

(And iirc, the pump is actually the part labeled 1 in that diagram.)

ducpainter

Quote from: Rameses on October 21, 2008, 04:02:01 PM

So that line of reasoning leads us to deduce that the fuel pick-up screen (4) is located outside of the tank too then, right?   ;)

(And iirc, the pump is actually the part labeled 1 in that diagram.)
nope...

the pump is #2
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Rameses


ducpainter

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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factorPlayer

Even I got the tank off and back on.  If I can do it you'll have no problem  [thumbsup]

Unless you want to take the cap off...  dude that was like birthing a baby  :'(

Rameses

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Quote from: ducpainter on October 21, 2008, 04:30:06 PM
The filter.





Then what's #12?

I thought that was the filter.




edit:  Wait, is #1 the rubber sleeve that surrounds the pump?

Capo

12 is the filter, 1 is a rubber sleeve into which the pump 2 is inserted.


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ducpainter

I never realized you could get the sleeve separately.

Should have looked closer.
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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