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Biker arrested for videotaping officer story updated

Started by ducatiz, August 17, 2010, 03:32:48 AM

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Quote from: yuu on September 29, 2010, 08:14:43 AM
But as a general rule, CAM has proven we can self regulate our discussions pretty well... (that and I think Statler's a sleep)
+1, though I side with the hangover theory ;)

I think this thread has been very civilized (despite my presence) and thanks to the lawyers involved also informative and factual rather than just filled with opinions (like mine).  [beer]
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

zooom

Quote from: ReginaDiCuori on September 29, 2010, 09:53:13 AM
I think this thread has been very civilized and thanks to the legally informative and factual based rather than just filled with opinions

modified your quote, but the intention was more for to say, if there were more conversations generally like this, less of them would get hammered shut
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Quote from: zooom on September 29, 2010, 10:23:11 AM
modified your quote, but the intention was more for to say, if there were more conversations generally like this, less of them would get hammered shut


Your notions of free speech are dangerous comrade. BB is watching.... [roll]
Is this thing on?

DRKWNG

Quote from: zooom on September 29, 2010, 03:38:58 AM
okay...lets say this douchebag sues the state and MSP...what is to be gained?...for him, I think he is just as happy to pay his traffic citations and let this go happily away...he sold his CBR and said he isn't going to ride again...he has some sort of security clearance which means he can retain some level of decent work and pay his debts resulting from this(at least till his next backround investigation for renewal or upgrade of his clearance)...which, he is probably going to suffer his liscence being suspended or perhaps revoked for a period of time due to the nature and point accumulation of the traffic offenses for which MVA CAN make an example of him if the District Court shows no leniancy with him in court for the traffic offenses alone....so where does he gain from sueing the court and/or the MSP?

The security clearance is the sticky point for possible litigation.  While an event like this will not impact his clearance at current time, it has the potential of doing so at the time of his periodic investigation.  Plus, there will be the matter of explaining the details of his arrest, which will be represented by a permanent note in NCIC.  This is where the litigation comes into play (from my non-attorney point of view).  I would imagine that said person could present a case of (potential) lost income due to his security clearance being placed in jeopardy in the near future, because of the illegitimate and unwarranted actions of certain members of the criminal justice community.  That, and the perceived infringement on his civil rights (being arrested wrongfully), could easily sway a court's decision in his favor...

Quote from: ahks on September 29, 2010, 04:46:35 AM
And since when is it OK for a LEO to pull is sidearm on someone that isn't and immediate threat. It's not like he had the right to shoot the McSquiddy if he rode away. It should have never left his holster. A hand on the gun in the holster is as far as that should have gone. Identifying himself as a LEO about 3 or 4 seconds faster would have been nice too. Fkn cop is lucky the dude didn't panic when he saw the gun pointed at him.I've only ever been in a holding cell for a few hours at a time... Not having a door on your crapper is the most demoralizing thing I've ever been thru...

Let's steer clear of the cop bashing, shall we?

Ahks

Quote from: DRKWNG on September 29, 2010, 01:06:33 PMLet's steer clear of the cop bashing, shall we?

I'm the last guy to bash the police, friends and family are on the force and I work with a few federal institutions as a technical contractor... I just think that individuals reaction was excessive. Which isn't exactly the point of this thread so I'll politely butt out now :D

Slide Panda

The actions of the officer are part of the discussion - but it's a discussion. So saying 'Fkn cop' is the sticking point.

When I first saw the video I immediately went 'uh oh' in regards as to how long it took that officer to identify himself as an LEO. Car was not marked, and no badge was shown/showing. I'm no scofflaw (mostly...), but if someone suddenly pulled a pistol out on me... I might rabbit. That office took 5 seconds from his first words, to actually stating that he was a Statey.

No matter what, that's a small, or non issue at this point in the face of the dubious action taker later regarding the seizure of the bikers computer gear and such.
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Quote from: yuu on October 11, 2010, 06:27:00 AMSo saying 'Fkn cop' is the sticking point.

Ahh yeah. I didn't mean it that way :) I was raised by sailors. the "F" word is a very versatile word in my vocabulary  [laugh]

DRKWNG

Quote from: ahks on October 11, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
Ahh yeah. I didn't mean it that way :) I was raised by sailors. the "F" word is a very versatile word in my vocabulary  [laugh]

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