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14 tooth on S2R1000 and I think I hate it....opinions?

Started by BlackKat, June 13, 2011, 07:46:36 PM

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corey

i went to 14t on my S2R800. once my chain wears out, i'll be jumping back up to 15t in thefront, and jumping up 2 in the back for a compromise (like heman sez)
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Billyzoom

 The 14t was one of the first mods I did, due to the feedback/peer pressure here.  It seemed indispensable. 

I tried it and hated it.  The only plus was that I had some more roll-on power on the fwy.  But my bike's powerful enough (S4Rs) andd I could downshift if really necessary.

Negatives for me were buzzier, slightly less mpg, and I hated the revving and getting through the lower gears so much faster.  I undid the mod and was happy as a clam.  My bike already got up to speed fast enough...I don't need to shift more. 

Since I have an S4Rs the 14t may not be as needed, but the bottom line is I was fixing a "problem" that for me wasn't even a problem.  I had no problems pulling away from stops smoothly, and only at very very slow speeds in parking lots was it a bit of an annoyance.  But 99.5% of my riding ISN'T that.

In fact, when my chain/sprockets wear out, I'm going one tooth smaller on the rear to ever-so-slightly drop the revs a bit more. 

Joel

motolocopat

never felt the need to do it on mine although when I redo chains/sprockets I'll probably go up 2 in the rear... but maybe not

Jarvicious

Although I'm just running an 800, I went to a 14 up front last winter and LOVE IT.  Yes, the rev limiter does approach a whole lot quicker, but the bike is just more FUN.   That's the only way I can describe it.  It pulls harder.  It's zippier, for lack of a better word.  I can see how it wouldn't be necessary with a more powerful bike, but for the 800 it was awesome. 
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arai_speed

Quote from: Jarvicious on July 12, 2011, 10:44:26 AM
Although I'm just running an 800, I went to a 14 up front last winter and LOVE IT.  Yes, the rev limiter does approach a whole lot quicker, but the bike is just more FUN.   That's the only way I can describe it.  It pulls harder.  It's zippier, for lack of a better word.  I can see how it wouldn't be necessary with a more powerful bike, but for the 800 it was awesome. 

I have an S4rs and LOVE the 14T sprocket.  Zippier for sure!  3rd gear in the canyons and the thing is a beast!  I jumps out of corners.

OT

Changed from the stock 15T to the 14T about three years ago....not crazy about it at speed, but bike is more rideable in slower, around-the-city traffic (which is why I did it).

FWIW - I only noticed about 500RPM difference (at the same speed) between the two sprockets...not a big diff imo.

BTW - BlackKat, have you checked the chain tension, that might be causing the extra noise and/or twitching in 1st?

BlackKat

Chain tension is spot on. The bike is at HMF (the guy who actually makes the FBF exhausts) having a lil custom piece made, but when it comes back, I'll see how the lightened flywheel will impact that 14 tooth as well. My master tech is a long time racer and he swears by 14 tooth fronts and lightened flywheels on his race bikes and his street bikes...so we'll see....full report next week.

Thanks for all the input boys!

hillbillypolack

The 14t front feels like a good improvement on the S*R for the moment. 

But I DO wish there were more sizes available for the rears.  Because I'd like to run a 43 or 44t rear, possibly with the stock 15t front (I know, I know there's a lot of conversation about front sprocket sizing and leverage).

In any case, I don't need top end but enjoy the lower and middle range and would like to gear accordingly.

Though on the M900, I did drop a tooth on the front and add two on the rear.  Maybe I answered my own question.

Speeddog

Quote from: hillbillypolack on July 16, 2011, 06:38:16 AM
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But I DO wish there were more sizes available for the rears. 

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I've got a 44t Stealth right here in my hands.
It's not for sale, but there are 43t and 44t sprockets available.

What style are you looking for?
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hillbillypolack

Quote from: Speeddog on July 16, 2011, 02:15:55 PM
I've got a 44t Stealth right here in my hands.
It's not for sale, but there are 43t and 44t sprockets available.

What style are you looking for?


I was looking for a 44T for the carrier/sprocket setup. Those don,t seem to be nearly as prevalent.

Where did you get the 44T Stealth?  Most everyone I speak to doesn't carry anything over 43.

Thanks