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Started by Gmoto, January 14, 2020, 09:46:50 PM

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Gmoto

Turn key, got lights and instruments, but no sound of fuel pump charge, press start and nothing. gone over wiring looking for loose connection, checked fuses, replaced starter relay, looking for next steps.

greenmonster

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Check battery condition.
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

Howie

Check battery condition means charge and load test.  Also check fuses, not just visually, check continuity.

Gmoto

Thanks Howie, will do, checked battery but doing it again. Also was told to check the fuel pump, your thoughts?

Howie

Cheap and easy first.  Battery, fuses, power to fuel pump relay, relay working, then the big stuff.

Duck-Stew

Non-start problems on injected Monsters are rarely component failure. Almost always electrical.
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Gmoto

My thoughts too. Plan to spend the weekend following up on these suggestions. Hopefully be back with good news.

Gmoto

Starter turns over when I short cut relay. Where is the fuel pump relay located? Of the two relays located on the side of the fuse box one smaller than the other and mine is yellow, are either of these the fuel pump relay. Battery tests good. Sorry for sounding like an idiot, probably am under the circumstances!

Speeddog

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Gmoto


Howie

If memory serves me right the yellow relay is the main relay and the black is FI.  Easy way to figure it out.  The connector for the main relay will have 5 terminals in the connector the FI relay 4.  When you locate the relay remove it and jump terminal 30 (red/blue wire) to 87(brown/white wire).  Urn key on. If pump primes new relay, if not more trouble shooting is in order.

WTSDS

Kill switch?
Side stand has a switch too.....

I have got same 'bike, those two switches have given me some "oh no" moments.
2000 Monster Dark 900 ie   Stock except for low Staintunes and a centrestand. 15:39 sprockets make for excellent highway gearing

Gmoto

Still in the hunt and these are great next steps! I was wondering how to short cut the relay, thanks guys. just thinking down the road, hopefully NOT! But is there a way to test the fuel pump without having to remove it? Out of frustration over the weekend I went ahead and ordered that relay (5 prong) $15 no big. Guess I should include the 12 pac of Modelo too. 

Speeddog

Fuel pressure should be ~45psi with the pump running.

If you don't have a wiring diagram, now would be a good time to get one.
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Howie

Quote from: Gmoto on January 21, 2020, 08:44:46 PM
Still in the hunt and these are great next steps! I was wondering how to short cut the relay, thanks guys. just thinking down the road, hopefully NOT! But is there a way to test the fuel pump without having to remove it? Out of frustration over the weekend I went ahead and ordered that relay (5 prong) $15 no big. Guess I should include the 12 pac of Modelo too. 

Quote from: howie on January 19, 2020, 02:42:30 PM
If memory serves me right the yellow relay is the main relay and the black is FI.  Easy way to figure it out.  The connector for the main relay will have 5 terminals in the connector the FI relay 4.  When you locate the relay remove it and jump terminal 30 (red/blue wire) to 87(brown/white wire).  Turn key on. If pump primes new relay, if not more trouble shooting is in order.