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Started by Spidey, September 22, 2008, 11:04:03 AM

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BellissiMoto

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LA, its coming.

The Desmosedicci for the street that takes the place of our v-twin SBK's will exist at some point in the near future, and most likely with even more power than current models (although, without all the fancy bits and pieces on the current model).

Think about the costs, and business models of manufacturing;

Ducati was very smart, and had sponsors pay for 97% of their racing budget, which included R&D from the beginning.

They then created a street version, and sold it at a high premium (clear price discrimination aimed at gaining the most revenue from a small market of ultra wealthy first movers).

Next step is to dramatically cut the cost, dramatically increase volume.

Its just a matter of time.


Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: BellissiMoto on September 22, 2008, 08:11:08 PM

The Desmosedicci for the street will exist at some point in the near future,


Er-the Desmosedicci is a street bike and already exists.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Raux

he meant for the SBK a V4 16 valve instead of the V2 8 valve.

high volume production should keep prices below 25k but i can't see the 848 getting a v4

maybe a 1200 v4 and a 900 v2 for the sbk

matt922

hmm wonder what the target price is for this bike? 

i know they have been working with this v4 for some time now(i remember reading about it in like 2005-6ish).


Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: Raux on September 22, 2008, 08:58:59 PM
he meant for the SBK a V4 16 valve instead of the V2 8 valve.

high volume production should keep prices below 25k but i can't see the 848 getting a v4

maybe a 1200 v4 and a 900 v2 for the sbk

It's not what he said.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

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mitt

Quote from: Raux on September 22, 2008, 08:58:59 PM
he meant for the SBK a V4 16 valve instead of the V2 8 valve.

high volume production should keep prices below 25k but i can't see the 848 getting a v4

maybe a 1200 v4 and a 900 v2 for the sbk

Remember too, the latest Cycle World reported Ducati is developing a new 2 cylinder motor with the front head rotated up for packaging, and maybe not even a 90deg cylinder angle.  They said the current 1200cc 2 cylinder design is at its limit.

mitt

Spidey

Quote from: mitt on September 23, 2008, 11:10:47 AM
Remember too, the latest Cycle World reported Ducati is developing a new 2 cylinder motor with the front head rotated up for packaging, and maybe not even a 90deg cylinder angle.  They said the current 1200cc 2 cylinder design is at its limit.

mitt

I thought there was talk in that article of a V4.  Am I misremembericating?  I almost cried when they said desmo might be reserved solely for superbikes. 

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LA

I think Bellissimoto is right. Ducati didn't make money on the D16, but they sure got there money's worth. The bikes are everywhere and owned by the "beautiful/rich" - some of the best advertising you can get. And smart of Ducati to get others to pony up for capital to do the R&D all the way from the 990 to the road bike.  I bet I still can't afford one when and if they do manufacture a reduced price variant.

A big bang "detuned", 1200cc,  90 degree v4 stump puller. Wow! Like to get a ride on one of those. [thumbsup]

LA
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arai_speed

I like it - it looks better then the old bike. It does have a CBR'ish look to it on the front end.  From the early spy shots that I have seen the thing looks tiny:



Unless the guy riding it is an oger  ;D


superjohn

Quote from: LA on September 23, 2008, 11:24:16 AM
I think Bellissimoto is right. Ducati didn't make money on the D16, but they sure got there money's worth. The bikes are everywhere and owned by the "beautiful/rich" - some of the best advertising you can get. And smart of Ducati to get others to pony up for capital to do the R&D all the way from the 990 to the road bike.  I bet I still can't afford one when and if they do manufacture a reduced price variant.

A big bang "detuned", 1200cc,  90 degree v4 stump puller. Wow! Like to get a ride on one of those. [thumbsup]

LA

If it happened it'd likely only be a 1000cc V4 as there's still the restriction for 4 cylinder machines. Only twins get to go to 1200cc

Pancake81

Like most new bikes, the exhaust is fricken ugly. First to go.
About the same time you're dragging your knees through a series of tight left-right-handers on Sunday afternoon, some guy in white shoes is sweating a 3-foot putt. Go figure.

Lars D

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DoubleEagle

Quote from: Rameses on September 22, 2008, 03:21:26 PM

Haven't they sold enough Desmosedicis to meet the homologation requirements?

Why not run those in WSBK and AMA?
I don't think AMA has sorted out whether they will or won't have a Litre bike class for '09 and if they haven't got it sorted by now there probably won't be a 1000cc class in AMA for '09.

This comes about because of rule changes as a result of the sale of AMA racing to DMG and the " Factories " and " Privateers ."  Dolph
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