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Changing your Monster's frame geometry!!

Started by cbrown, October 14, 2008, 10:50:32 AM

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El Matador

Quote from: cbrown on October 14, 2008, 01:42:06 PM
I'm not too optimistic that the forks or triples are straight, but like I said, they sure look it.  Know of a easy way to check?

I'm probably not going through insurance mainly due to the fact that this 2000 m900 has none... is it too late to get a policy!?

I assumed I would need a new frame and have a few leads on them.  My existing one can't be repaired right?  Seems a little sketchy to repair damage like that.

What year frames will work?  94-02?

I'm having trouble deciding on turning this into a project, selling as is, or just parting it out.


Part it out! Sell me the engine  [thumbsup]

cbrown

Quote from: El Matador on October 14, 2008, 01:44:05 PM
Part it out! Sell me the engine  [thumbsup]

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PROJECT!! PROJECT!!  As long as the geometry can be verified I don't see why a skilled welder could not repair that. Gusset it for a little extra insurance. You now get to re-invent your bike. Think of the possibilities! Check those forks out real closely. It would be a good idea to strip them and check for bent/cracked parts. If ok then maybe get a Race Tech kit and rebuild. Have a few  [drink] and mull it over.  Cheers!
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Quote from: cbrown on October 14, 2008, 01:42:06 PM
I'm not too optimistic that the forks or triples are straight, but like I said, they sure look it.  Know of a easy way to check?

If you loosen both triples, you should be able to move the forks up and down in the triples without binding.  You probably need to take the front wheel off.  If they bind, the forks or the triples are bent.  Probably the triples.  The might not work well if your steering head is bent too, which might be the case with your bike.

Normally if you take the triples off and place them on a flat surface (glass works well), you can tell if they're bent.  They'll rock back n' forth if they're bent.  Also, you can take a fork leg and roll it across a flat surface.  See if it wobbles (like a pool cue).  Often, you can look down the forks and you can see if there is a bend.
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cbrown

Thanks for the tech help!

Repairing the frame is possible eh?  Hmmmmm.....  Where in the world would I even go to get that looked at?

He Man

Quote from: somebastid on October 14, 2008, 01:02:07 PM
I'm guessing the 60 MPH impact with a solid object.  :P

[laugh]

go to a bike repair shop and they can reweld the frame. I assume you dont have full coverage. cause you can jsut total the thing.
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Speeddog

As far as replacement frames, '01 and earlier, non-S4.
At some point, there was a change in the engine bolt diameter, not sure when that was.
There may be other differences, but I think that's it.

I'd be *really* surprised if the forks are salvageable.

And definitely look very closely at the motor mount areas on the cases.
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Quote from: Speeddog on October 14, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
I'd be *really* surprised if the forks are salvageable.

And definitely look very closely at the motor mount areas on the cases.

Ah ah! See, Nick, crashing pays off in long run.  I done gone learned me some tech stuff.   [laugh]
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Howie

'01 was the biginning of 12mm engine mount bolts.

cbrown

Some more pics:


The wheel didn't completely taco.  More like a soggy late night tostada.  I hadn't noticed that fluid before - wonder what thats from........ :-\



My front fender looks crooked.

Spidey

Quote from: cbrown on October 14, 2008, 04:30:59 PM
I hadn't noticed that fluid before - wonder what thats from........ :-\

It's probably brake fluid.  That's not unusual when you blow out your front end.  I'd give it a once over and wipe off any brake fluid with soap and water.  It'll eat away paint and you might have it on some bits that you later want to salvage.

Youch.  Looks like you might need to add a headlight to your list of things to replace.  Not cheap.  However, the brackets that hold the headlight on are only like $10.   [thumbsup] 
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cbrown

I'm willing to part out a slightly used front michelin pilot power ct.  Less than 100 miles on it!

Grampa

Quote from: cbrown on October 14, 2008, 04:30:59 PM
Some more pics:


The wheel didn't completely taco.  More like a soggy late night tostada.  I hadn't noticed that fluid before - wonder what thats from........ :-\




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Speeddog

That fork looks bent to me.

And guaranteed your front axle is as well.
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