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Started by darylbowden, October 16, 2008, 05:51:42 PM

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darylbowden

October 16, 2008, 05:51:42 PM
How exactly does this thing work?

On my Husky, my neutral light doesn't work.  I figured it was a bulb, so I replaced it - still no worky.

Is there some kind of sender on the other end?  Or how DOES the light get the signal?  And, whatever the case may be, is it somewhat easy to replace?

Buckethead

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October 16, 2008, 05:54:07 PM Last Edit: October 16, 2008, 06:05:18 PM by Obsessed?
Gnomes.

Gnomes and dwarves.

Middle earth lives in your instrument cluster.

And I am drunk.  [beer]

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ducpainter

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October 16, 2008, 05:59:24 PM
Generally there is a plunger type switch that contacts the shift drum in some manner.
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monster monkey

#3
October 16, 2008, 06:03:51 PM
There should be a nuetral switch either on the gearbox or the shifter, dpending on the vehicle....
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darylbowden

#4
October 16, 2008, 07:01:11 PM
Ahh, perfect, I'll call Eric's tomorrow and see how much one of those bad boys costs.  And how many months it'll take Husky to actually get it to me.

Speeddog

#5
October 16, 2008, 07:34:16 PM
Usually it's a single wire that's plugged into the neutral 'switch'.

Best to pull that connector off, and jumper it to the frame to ground it.

If the light comes on, then it's definitely the switch.
If it doesn't come on, then there's a wiring issue.

Best to do the cheap and quick diagnosis first...
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darylbowden

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October 16, 2008, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on October 16, 2008, 07:34:16 PM
Usually it's a single wire that's plugged into the neutral 'switch'.

Best to pull that connector off, and jumper it to the frame to ground it.

If the light comes on, then it's definitely the switch.
If it doesn't come on, then there's a wiring issue.

Best to do the cheap and quick diagnosis first...

Umm, this may sound retarded, but I write code for a living (and got a sweet new job today btw), so can you possibly expand on exactly how I jumper it?

ducpainter

#7
October 16, 2008, 08:11:34 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on October 16, 2008, 08:08:23 PM
Umm, this may sound retarded, but I write code for a living (and got a sweet new job today btw), so can you possibly expand on exactly how I jumper it?


Just take a suitable piece of metal to go from the wire connector to ground....

a cotter pin or a jewelers type screwdriver should work.

If it happens to be a 2 wire connector, a small piece of wire...safety wire works...can be used to connect them together.
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Speeddog

#8
October 16, 2008, 08:12:15 PM
What dp said.  ;D
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ducpainter

#9
October 16, 2008, 08:13:43 PM
...and congrats on the new job.   [thumbsup]
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


darylbowden

#10
October 16, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 16, 2008, 08:13:43 PM
...and congrats on the new job.   [thumbsup]

Thank you very much.  I'm very excited to be working for HUGE who is one of the very best there are in my industry.  Hopefully this means I'll be able to get back on the track more often and finally take that CSS Level I class.

Capo

#11
October 17, 2008, 02:30:01 AM
The neutral position sensor, is a spring loaded contact screwed into the rear of the crankcase and contacts the gear selector drum. The selector drum has a ring of non- conductive material around the contact path EXCEPT at the neutral postion. The sensor has a single 'hot' wire, when in the neutral position the circuit to ground is completed via the sensor contact and the selector drum.


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ducpainter

#12
October 17, 2008, 05:29:01 AM
Quote from: Capo on October 17, 2008, 02:30:01 AM
The neutral position sensor, is a spring loaded contact screwed into the rear of the crankcase and contacts the gear selector drum. The selector drum has a ring of non- conductive material around the contact path EXCEPT at the neutral postion. The sensor has a single 'hot' wire, when in the neutral position the circuit to ground is completed via the sensor contact and the selector drum.
That's one way of doing it...

Often a shift drum will just have a depression at the neutral location that the plunger drops in to.
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


Capo

#13
October 17, 2008, 09:34:50 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 17, 2008, 05:29:01 AM
That's one way of doing it...

Often a shift drum will just have a depression at the neutral location that the plunger drops in to.

Indeed but Ducati uses the insulation method.
I fiited the corse billet selector that does not have the insulation band so now I have a permanent neutral light. (at least until I get into the instrument cluster)


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darylbowden

#14
October 17, 2008, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: Capo on October 17, 2008, 09:34:50 AM
Indeed but Ducati uses the insulation method.
I fiited the corse billet selector that does not have the insulation band so now I have a permanent neutral light. (at least until I get into the instrument cluster)

UNfortunately, this is my Husky so it may be different.  I hope to know the answer today though.  I'll be jumpering away in a minute  [thumbsup]
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