TPO Beast vs. Open Air Box w/ K&N

[Mother]

Thoughts?

Benifits of pods if any over the open box?

Loss of sound depth?

[ducpainter]

Thoughts?

Benifits of pods if any over the open box?

Loss of sound depth?

They run better with an airbox.

[Mother]

They run better with an airbox.

even one with no top?

[ducpainter]

even one with no top?

IMO


yup.

Without an airbox Monsters, or any bike for that matter, are subject to air currents across the mouth of the carb/throttle body.

It affects airflow and fueling.

An open airbox is protected under the tank.

Once you get the fueling right it will be uniform under almost all conditions.

[Mother]

IMO


yup.

Without an airbox Monsters, or any bike for that matter, are subject to air currents across the mouth of the carb/throttle body.

It affects airflow and fueling.

An open airbox is protected under the tank.

Once you get the fueling right it will be uniform under almost all conditions.

icey

so a big crosswind would F with open pods...

interesting

never thought about it that way

so with an open airbox, what effect on the fuel tuning does actual forward movement have over a stationary dyno?

[ducpainter]

From what I'm told not enough to matter.

A good tuner will adjust for driveability not necessarily max power. That will generally leave you just a tad on the rich side which may be why movement is a non issue.

[Mother]

cool

thanks

[army_intel]

So is an open/cut airbox with K&N filter the best option for power and driveability?

[Mother]

So is an open/cut airbox with K&N filter the best option for power and driveability?

the best intake option it seems

[ducpainter]

So is an open/cut airbox with K&N filter the best option for power and driveability?

I believe it is for a carbed bike.

Brad Black who is far more knowledgeable than I has said he doesn't think the open airbox adds much.

He believes cam timing and proper fueling are the answer.

At least that's what I get from reading his posts and articles.

Maybe he'll post up here.

[army_intel]

I am currently in Iraq, and when I get home I am going to put some of this hard earned money into my 08 S2R1k.  I already have my deposit in for Motocreations Boom Tubes, and I am trying to tackle the Intake/ECU now.  From trolling these boards for quite some time, I am fairly confident that FatDucs Modulator and a good PCIII tune on a dynometer will solve my fuel/timing issues.   If Mr Black Brad says that an open airbox doesnt add that much than just swapping out the stock filter for a K&N one, I would be very interested in finding this information out.

[OverCaffeinated]

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=4736.0

[army_intel]

After reading that thread, I feel that it was more directed towards Monsters that were carburated.   I am specially asking the question about the newer, Fuel Injected monsters.  I will send Black Brad a PM.

[He Man]

I am currently in Iraq, and when I get home I am going to put some of this hard earned money into my 08 S2R1k.  I already have my deposit in for Motocreations Boom Tubes, and I am trying to tackle the Intake/ECU now.  From trolling these boards for quite some time, I am fairly confident that FatDucs Modulator and a good PCIII tune on a dynometer will solve my fuel/timing issues.   If Mr Black Brad says that an open airbox doesnt add that much than just swapping out the stock filter for a K&N one, I would be very interested in finding this information out.

Thanks for serving  What branch are you?

Anyway, PCIII wont work on your bike, actually ive never heard of one working on an 08, only 06, and 07 with the removal of the stepper motor setup, and a fast idle switch in place. i dont even think Rapid Bike 3 works with 07+ bikes

[army_intel]

From what Mark Savory has told me at motorcreations, they have had some success with tuning the 07 S2r1k with a PCIII, and the CPU on the 07 and 08 is the same, unless I am totally wrong, which is highly likely.