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Need some education on Brakes?

Started by psycledelic, October 24, 2008, 11:44:39 PM

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Quote from: 2001cromo on October 27, 2008, 08:58:52 PM

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That info should make its way to a sticky or FAQ.  Nice summary! 

I'll take a look at my masters this eveing and pull the numbers for the 999 style masters, that's what's on the ole 900
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
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ghosthound

Quote from: corey on October 28, 2008, 05:18:11 AM
Dont have an exact number for ya, but from what i recall hearing, around $860 bucks. It's pretty competitively priced. You would spend very close to that trying to piece something together from what i understand.

wow, im actually surprised its only 860.  Being that it is sold by Ducati and they are Brembo components, I was expecting WAAAY higher.  [thumbsup]

BK_856er

Quote from: ghosthound on October 28, 2008, 07:50:46 AM
wow, im actually surprised its only 860.  Being that it is sold by Ducati and they are Brembo components, I was expecting WAAAY higher.  [thumbsup]

List price on that brake kit is only $667.  You can probaby get 10% off of that if you choose the right dealer.  I think it was around $550 last year.  Either way, it's a real bargain.

Scroll up, the 999 master is 18x19!

BK

COWBOY

#18
96845805B has the 320 rotors, lines and calipers     

96846605B includes the master                             

I really think these are cheaper than that here in the US though.  If memory serves when I did mine the kit was under 600 because I was surprised that I came within a 100.00 of it when I pieced my rotors (150.00), masters (200.00), calipers (125) and lines (25) together. 

NM BK beat me to it.....

Cheers

PS cromo great info.  I agree it should be captured and put in a faq or sticky post for reference.   [thumbsup]

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

bigiain

Quote from: 2001cromo on October 27, 2008, 08:58:52 PM

For the single caliper front brakes (I believe) Ducati used 13mm piston as it was only pushing half as many pistons.

On the coffin masters (both brake and clutch), the bore size is cast into the bottom of the cylinder - you can read it if you get your head down underneath the handlebars.

big (great post BTW!)


psycledelic

Quote from: 2001cromo on October 27, 2008, 08:58:52 PM
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13805.0


I want to help clear the air here so .......


Wow!  I, for one, appreciate the time and effort on that research.  Thanks!!!!! [bow_down]
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2001cromo

At your request I've put this into the FAQ's

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14127.0

Thanks!

Now how about some flying W's   [moto]

JTMOTO


I just got the bike back from dealer, they installed the Golden series braking system kit SKU code #96845805B for the S2R.  It does come with the new master.  Look pretty nice but haven't broke them in yet to give my impressions.   






Heath

Can't wait to hear how it went.  I want to do this upgrade this year.
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stopintime

JT
On that picture there is another carrier than the one in the DP catalogue. Do you now why?
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JTMOTO

Quote from: stopintime on February 05, 2009, 01:34:57 PM
JT
On that picture there is another carrier than the one in the DP catalogue. Do you now why?
I noticed the same thing...I was expecting the "cookie cutter" as described earlier in this post and shown on Ducati's website.  I was pleasantly suprised.  The kit is very nice...although it did take almost 5 weeks to arrive after ordering.   

Privateer

Quote from: bigiain on October 28, 2008, 09:17:56 PM
On the coffin masters (both brake and clutch), the bore size is cast into the bottom of the cylinder - you can read it if you get your head down underneath the handlebars.

big (great post BTW!)



couldn't find it on mine.. maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.. but not like it's that big of an area where i might miss it.


I'd like t upgrade my levers eventually. seem to be more options for the small pivot w/ remote res opposed to teh coffins..


Andy
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stopintime

#27
JT

Besides the question of the different carriers........ You have the dual pin calipers, not the single pin which is pictured with the xxxx5805B kit.
I'm thinking your dealer may have sold you something else than the kit you thought you were getting.
I hope that is a good thing. I'm not well educated on brakes, but I have understood that the master cylinder best be
matching the caliper bore/stroke dimensions.

What do you think?


PS (edit) Of course, the kit on your bike might be a new version of the xxxx5805B. Just trying to get to the bottom of this......  ;)
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Speeddog

This is what ducati.com shows as that kit:
#96845805B

It's odd, those are the old 'pizza' style carriers in the picture, which are steel.
And it's the narrow bolt spacing/single pin calipers in the picture.

I think they just re-used an old picture.
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JTMOTO

Quote from: stopintime on February 07, 2009, 02:06:08 AM
JT

Besides the question of the different carriers........ You have the dual pin calipers, not the single pin which is pictured with the xxxx5805B kit.
I'm thinking your dealer may have sold you something else than the kit you thought you were getting.
I hope that is a good thing. I'm not well educated on brakes, but I have understood that the master cylinder best be
matching the caliper bore/stroke dimensions.

What do you think?


PS (edit) Of course, the kit on your bike might be a new version of the xxxx5805B. Just trying to get to the bottom of this......  ;)

I dont know...Which is considered better?  Single pin or dual pin?  My only guess is that no one orders this option, and they didn't have any at the factory(which explains why I was told 1 week and it took over 5 weeks) and they may have pieced this together (Ducati. not my dealer).  Thoughts?????