848 DRY slipper

[IdZer0]

Are they even making an 848S? I haven't heard any indication that they will.

Last year there where rumours of an 848S :

[Desmostro]

While technically the 1098 monoblock brakes are better than the 848 brakes...the 848 brakes are friggin' awesome...even on the track. I've even heard some say they prefer the 848 brakes because the 1098 ones are just too much for everything except the track. I've done a few track days on my 848 and have never needed more than 2 fingers on the front brake.

The seat cowl, steering damper, and fender are good points. The cowl and damper alone will set you back $700-$900, depending upon which damper you get.

+1

There are many threads on 1098 vs 848 on the web. They were meant to be different bikes, not really one, "better" than the other. They ride very differently.
It's all about what is 'better' for you IMHO. The minimal $ difference wasn't enough to sway my decision. I was actually going to get the 1098. I went for the 848 for the way it rides/the way I want to ride.

+ IMHO the OEM 848 wet slipper clutch is awesome. No need for a clutch slave at all. To get rear wheel skid down shifting, you got to be doing something pretty extreme. Especially with the stock Pirellis. The light engine spins up so damn fast. This dry slipper clutch is a lot of cash for little gain IMO. Seems more like a Ducati purest thing to have a dry clutch.
The wet OEM clutch is many pounds lighter than the 1098's dry clutch. 
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[Greg]

Seems more like a Ducati purest thing to have a dry clutch.
The wet OEM clutch is many pounds lighter than the 1098's dry clutch. 

You're telling me that Ducati deliberatly puts a much heavier clutch on their top of the line bikes just because it is a Ducati thing?
I'm just having a hard time believing that. Do you have any proof that the wet clutch is lighter?

[Triple J]

Do you have any proof that the wet clutch is lighter?

Other than DUCATI says it is?

[superjohn]

You're telling me that Ducati deliberatly puts a much heavier clutch on their top of the line bikes just because it is a Ducati thing?
I'm just having a hard time believing that. Do you have any proof that the wet clutch is lighter?

I think a wet clutch requires much more pressure to work reliably. The spring tension is much greater (one reason why people remove a couple springs to get a lighter pull).

With an oil bathed clutch, I guess you can get away with lighter string pull and a little more slipping between the plates as the clutch engages since the oil cools and lubricates said plates.

[MadDuck]

Well hell, from this thread we should all be riding gixxers because you get more for the money.  


And some people just want the smaller lighter motor.

Hey! Don't knock those gixxers until you spend some time with them. 

The smaller, lighter engine is just plain easier to ride. Some think that's more fun too. 

[NAKID]

The seat cowl, steering damper, and fender are good points. The cowl and damper alone will set you back $700-$900, depending upon which damper you get.

That really depends. If you want the stock damper, I'm sure someone with a 1098 will sell you theirs after they upgrade...

[Triple J]

That really depends. If you want the stock damper, I'm sure someone with a 1098 will sell you theirs after they upgrade...

Stock 1098 damper doesn't work on an 848. Ducati was kind enough to not weld the arm onto the frame that the damper plunger hooks to . 

As such, you can buy the DP damper kit, which includes a bolt on arm and a replacement plastic key shroud to replace the stock one...for the low low price of $780 (if I remember correctly). Or you can buy a GPR damper which doesn't need the arm...for $550. Those are the only 2 options I'm aware of for the 848.

I went the GPR route.

[Spidey]

One thing to consider in the 848 v. 1098 debate.  For club racers, an 848 puts you in an intermediate size class.  A 1098 puts you with the big bike class.  If you want to run intermediate bikes, you don't care if the 848 is the same price as the 1098.  You just want the 848 and all the go-fast bits you can get for it, including a dry slipper, which will allow easy clutch plate replacement at the track (not uncommon).


BTW, I don't get how this works (in part because I don't remember what the 848 cases look like).  Do you need a new case for the 848 along with the dry slipper clutch?

[Greg]

BTW, I don't get how this works (in part because I don't remember what the 848 cases look like).  Do you need a new case for the 848 along with the dry slipper clutch?

The link he provided shows a new case

[Spidey]

The link he provided shows a new case

Hmmmm you're right.  I looked at that pic this morning and somehow didn't see the case.  Weird.  Too much bourbon in my Cheerios, I guess.   

[bryant8]

In the spring I'll probably do the switch to the dry clutch slipper. I figure it'll be cheaper than buying another Duc.

After I installed the full Termi kit there wasn't really much else I wanted to add.  Just want the Speedymoto triple and the Dan Kyle Öhlins damper kit. The dry clutch would finish the bike for me. Just my $.02

[DRKWNG]

Hey! Don't knock those gixxers until you spend some time with them. 

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[El Matador]

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+1 I just fell in love with the twins. I can never go back to those i4's

[zarn02]

i wonder, simply for the sake of argument, if this conversion makes the bike compatible with all the ducati dry clutches?

could you just slap in a standard clutch pack after your slipper wore out, if you were so inclined?