696 and 1100 Monster Aftermarket Oil Cooler Kit

[fletch696]

 

[Duck-EZ]

Looks like you could go with a Setrab, though not as Blingy, they are more affordable and have one of the best reputations on cooling efficiency. I think I saw someone on here running one. Anyone care to chime in?  I've used them on aircooled VW's and swear by them in that application. If my cooler ever goes south, I'd mount one.

[hcomp]

I have used many Setrab coolers throughout my racing career.  They are a quality piece and have never had a problem with them.  They should work well for a replacement if one were to go bad. The one thing to be careful of is the secondary fittings that go into the oil cooler (the ones that convert to AN). The reason to be careful is it adds a possible point of failure. Earl's coolers (made by Dana Automotive) have the secondary fittings as well.  Earl's fittings are awesome, however I have had two failures with their coolers in the past.  I think Setrab pressure tests all of their coolers along with the ones we use. Earl's does random checks.

[DucHead]

I totally agree with this. I started working on the kit at 2500 miles for that reason and last summer my oil temps went to 7 bars in traffic (thats 191-200C!!!!!! Way TOO HOT for oil !!!).  That is the entire reason for this kit.  The oil cooler will extend the life of the oil, but in my opinion it does not hurt to change it before the required interval.  Oil is cheap insurance against a costly repair.

How much does an oil cooler help when you're sitting in traffic?  I would think not much. 

It's when you're moving that the cooler will help.

[hcomp]

The oil cooler does make a difference in traffic.  Even though there is not air flowing through, you still have a significant delta across the cooler from ambient air.  In essence, you are taking oil away from its heat source.  We have tested in stop and go traffic and its runs a bar cooler.  Last summer I was  getting to 7 bars in 108F in traffic.  I actually pulled over and shut the bike down to let it cool. We have been taking the cooler on and off over the past month to do a comparison. Without the oil cooler in traffic at 80F +/- 5F we are seeing on average 5 bars.  With the oil cooler the most we've seen is 4 bars. Aggressive riding (high rpm medium and low speed) will bounce between 3 and 4 bars. Street riding will be 3 bars. Freeway will be 3 bars. I suspect that as the weather gets hotter, we should only see at max one bar more than at 80F. I never want to see my bike get to 6 bars, I would be happy if it stayed below that. The amazing thing is how fast the temp drops when you get moving.  Update.....It is now hot enough to give a fair estimate on temps....The oil cooler will prevent the bike from ever going to 5 or 6 bars.  I was in traffic and it was HOT no problems the bike sat there at 4 bars...

[DucHead]

The oil cooler does make a difference in traffic.  Even though there is not air flowing through, you still have a significant delta across the cooler from ambient air.  In essence, you are taking oil away from its heat source.  We have tested in stop and go traffic and its runs a bar cooler.  Last summer I was  getting to 7 bars in 108F in traffic.  I actually pulled over and shut the bike down to let it cool. We have been taking the cooler on and off over the past month to do a comparison. Without the oil cooler in traffic at 80F +/- 5F we are seeing on average 5 bars.  With the oil cooler the most we've seen is 4 bars. Aggressive riding (high rpm medium and low speed) will bounce between 3 and 4 bars. Street riding will be mostly 2 bars. Freeway will be 2 bars once in a while hit 3. I suspect that as the weather gets hotter, we should only see at max one bar more than at 80F. I never want to see my bike get to 6 bars, I would be happy if it stayed below that. The amazing thing is how fast the temp drops when you are moving. 

That's great info, thanks.

Last Fall, I replaced the OEM cooler on my Bandit with a larger capacity Earl's cooler.  I did not take the time to do all the temperature comparisons though.

[hcomp]

That's great info, thanks.

Last Fall, I replaced the OEM cooler on my Bandit with a larger capacity Earl's cooler.  I did not take the time to do all the temperature comparisons though.

How has the Dana cooler been holding up? We had 2 failures while using them on our cars.

[moto]

Hi Ryan,

That looks like a great kit.
We are looking forward to getting some for stock.

Group Buy anyone?
It will be less expensive if we get a larger batch.

We can create a package price to include a euro type left side cover that eliminates the charcoal canister.


-M

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[danaid]

Hi Ryan,

That looks like a great kit.
We are looking forward to getting some for stock.

Group Buy anyone?
It will be less expensive if we get a larger batch.

We can create a package price to include a euro type left side cover that eliminates the charcoal canister.


-M

I will order one from Ya!

[OstOgBajer]

I saw this at MotoWheels as a pre-order. It is only $20 cheaper than the Ducati oil cooler. Does it cool better than the Ducati part?

[hcomp]

Yes, we have done back to back test with the DP kit. I would say we are marginally cooler. We did try a larger size cooler, but it would not be practical. You have to block off half the cooler to drive at night because of too much cooling capacity.  We also offer $150 worth of instructions that can be read.

[Mojo S2R]

We also offer $150 worth of instructions that can be read.

Nice. 

[DucHead]

How has the Dana cooler been holding up? We had 2 failures while using them on our cars.

No problems so far, but I've only put a few thousand miles on it.  The oil is not pressurized, so I don't expect any problems either.  Were your auto units under pressure?

The good news is that my bike runs under 190°F on the superslab. I really wish that I'd have measured the running temp prior to the cooler.

It's great that you're providing numbers for the 696/1100 customers. 

[OstOgBajer]

We also offer $150 worth of instructions that can be read.

Well I'm sold lol

[hcomp]

Case in point about instructions from the "other forum" http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/accessories-mods/190717-ducati-perfprmance-tail-chop.html

No problems so far, but I've only put a few thousand miles on it.  The oil is not pressurized, so I don't expect any problems either.  Were your auto units under pressure?

The good news is that my bike runs under 190°F on the superslab. I really wish that I'd have measured the running temp prior to the cooler.

It's great that you're providing numbers for the 696/1100 customers. 

Yes the auto units were under pressure. Up to 100 psi oil pressure