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Urbane InTech Valve

Started by erik822, March 25, 2009, 12:47:17 PM

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erik822

Anyone tried this device on their monster?
Urbane InTech Valve
http://www.visordown.com/news/article.asp?sp=&v=1&uan=6581

I'm sure we'll have plenty of people who reply "it's snake oil" but I'm wondering if anyone has actually tried it. And since we now know that there are some medicines derived from snake venom I'd say we should revisit our definition of snake oil anyway.

Video of Tests
MCN
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1119137831?bctid=1315742466

BBC News
Man shows carbon reducing valve



Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

amcloud

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  If his claims were true and the technology has been around for 15 years, car manufacturers would have utilized it by now if it were useful.
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erik822

Quote from: amcloud on March 25, 2009, 12:56:52 PM
If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  If his claims were true and the technology has been around for 15 years, car manufacturers would have utilized it by now if it were useful.

Superior technology needs to be adopted, not just invented. There's a big difference in there.

Plus, car manufacturers brought us the Pontiac Aztec.

Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

NAKID

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Howie

#4
From what I can see this seems to be nothing more than a PCV valve. 

Speeddog

It would help in evaluating the product if they had actually described how it works.  [roll]
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junior varsity

Quote from: Speeddog on March 25, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
It would help in evaluating the product if they had actually described how it works.  [roll]

+1.  This product is bullshit. Nowhere can i find how it works. Not even a lay-explanation. New innovative product? Don't hide the ball if you want me to play.

Ashmon

It's easy to say this is bullshit, or snake oil, but then why would MCN give it such a glowing report. Lets just hope someone was not payed for the praise.

DucHead

Quote from: Ashmon on March 25, 2009, 06:23:42 PM
It's easy to say this is bullshit, or snake oil, but then why would MCN give it such a glowing report. Lets just hope someone was not payed for the praise.

How can we believe MCN's glowing report without an explanation of how it works?

I'm a scientist man, I can't do that.  [cheeky]
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Ashmon

As am I, and the more and more I look at it, the more it looks EXACTLY like a Vacuum check valve.

junior varsity

Yeah, the engineer in me doesn't buy it on advertising alone. Its like those "tornado" inserts for your car's engine. Riiiiiiiiggggggggggghhhhhhhhhttttttttttt.......

erik822

Quote from: Ashmon on March 25, 2009, 06:42:53 PM
As am I, and the more and more I look at it, the more it looks EXACTLY like a Vacuum check valve.


So if it IS nothing more than a vacuum check valve, could it have the effect described in the video?
Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

Howie

Quote from: erik822 on March 26, 2009, 08:37:41 AM

So if it IS nothing more than a vacuum check valve, could it have the effect described in the video?

All street legal vehicles come out of the factory with some sort of closed crankcase ventilation system, either a check valve, a fixed orifice, or, like we have on our Ducs, a reid valve system to control the crankcase gasses and deliver them back into the engine to be burnt rather than expel them into the atmosphere.  In other words, manufacturers have been doing this since 1963.

NAKID

I got the impression that he was relieving cylinder resistance, not crankcase resistance which is why I'm confused...
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2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

Speeddog

I *think* it's a controlled air leak into the intakes, after the throttle bodies.

BUT, there's so much smoke and so many mirrors, it's impossible to know for sure.  [roll]
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