Helmet with Inner Visor

[adpeacock]

Hey everyone,
      I am looking to purchase a new helmet with an inner visor does anyone have any recommendations?  My top 3 choices for now are the Scorpion 1000, HJC, and the Shark.  I need people's help, is it even worth the purchase?  Thanks for the help.

[redial]

check this thread for pics of most of them.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20844.0

This is due to arrive via fedex tomorrow afternoon so i will post pics and impressions once it arrives.

i have scoured the internet for a pic of it on a rider with no luck



schuberth is also worth a look
this helmet belongs to stopintime and the more i look at it the more i think it looks fantastic.
i was not able to find a u.s. source for this helmet though (R1 iirc)

[DucHead]

Find a few shops that carry each/all of these, try them on and buy the one that fits you best.

There are at least two other threads that discuss the EXO-1000.

[stopintime]

I'm in Europe and can't help you with US sources for Schuberth - in fact their website does not mention America at all.
I got mine here:  http://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf
Probably won't be DOT approved if that's a requirement.

In the turbulence behind a fairing my R1 is really loud. Standing up above the turbulence it's very very quiet. It's a sport helmet and the flip up C3 or superior S1 Pro are much tighter around the neck. The R1 and S1 Pro fit very similar to the oval shaped Arai helmets I tried on.

In general, about the sun visor, direct sunlight will travel through three layers of plastic (visor, pinlock and sun visor) and sometimes seems to create unwanted reflexes. My guess is that most sun visors aren't, but should have been, treated with a coat of anti-reflex (like regular glasses can be).

[gt78fin]

Here's a serious  for Schuberth.

Best your money can buy, seriously. I had a Caberg Justissimo GT last summer and bought my Schuberth S1 this winter. The difference to Caberg (and others I've tried with including Shoei and Marushin) is too big to compare.

Schuberth is the most silent helmet out there proven in many tests. And it handles the airflow good too, at least my head doesn't spin around as it used to last summer

Of course they're a bit expensive but go and try and you'll never go back...

[redial]

Here's a serious  for Schuberth.

during my searches i found only the modular (C series) types and the S1 regular.

It seems like the S1pro and the R1 can not be had in the US, even ebay.
just keep in mind if you decide to buy an older or import a schuberth you are going to
have to order parts from overseas if anything breaks


> as for the nexx, big thumbs down for FedEx., They provided two "tracking" pings.
one when the seller dropped off the package and one after it didnt show on its delivery date.
i put quotes around tracking because the seller told me when they dropped it off and i could clearly
see that it did not arrive so their "tracking" did me exactly zero good.  will post tomorrow when its now set to arrive,
but of course that means nothing since one drop off date already came and went
UPS ftw

[adpeacock]

Guys thanks for the help.  As anyone tried the Inner visor made by Shark.  I havent tried the Scorpion on for a while but I want to try all 3 on and ride around with them for a bit.  But thanks for the advice, I am still up in the air which one i will go with.  Thanks

[DucHead]

Guys thanks for the help.  As anyone tried the Inner visor made by Shark.  I havent tried the Scorpion on for a while but I want to try all 3 on and ride around with them for a bit.  But thanks for the advice, I am still up in the air which one i will go with.  Thanks

That Shark helmet is brand new.  I tried one on at Cycle Gear.  It was pretty cool, but heavy.  The chin bar rotates all the way back like the ...(can't think of the name!).

[adpeacock]

the full rotation chin strap must be nice but im not a big fan of the weight if its gonna be heavy.  Any other suggestions for helmets I should check out.

[redial]

That Shark helmet is brand new.  I tried one on at Cycle Gear.  It was pretty cool, but heavy.  The chin bar rotates all the way back like the ...(can't think of the name!).

like the ROOF boxer

[erkishhorde]

Just curious, you know that all the flip front full face helmets actually only have 3/4 helmet safety ratings, yes?

After reading most of the webbikeworld reviews I think they usually like the straight cut bottom shades best. Usually the visor is far enough from your face that the nose cut out doesn't really do anything.

[peanut_man]

Hey everyone,
      I am looking to purchase a new helmet with an inner visor does anyone have any recommendations?  My top 3 choices for now are the Scorpion 1000, HJC, and the Shark.  I need people's help, is it even worth the purchase?  Thanks for the help.

I'm also looking at getting a new helmet.  I have used Scorpion EXO-1000 before.  I can attest in a crash, it's solid, zero head injury.    It is feature-rich with changable inner visor and cheek pump, etc.  But very heavy 4+lb.  HJC IS-16 seems interesting. It got '3-position' visor (on the Scorpion I always feel that the visor should come down a little more, HJC will dot hat).  And it is amazingly light for the features it got, about 3lb 8oz i believe.  However, it is ONLY DOT approved, not SNELL.  Don't want to get into debate, but DOT does not require mandatory testing.  'DOT approved' helmet from various manufacturers failed random testing regularly.  So... it's a bit of a gamble w/o SNELL-approved helmet.

Have no experience w/ Shark tho...

[DucHead]

I disagree with the post above.  Snell rated helmets are harder to pass the testing, and as such they transmit more force to the brain.  Personally, I could care less about a Snell rating.  ECE-22.05 is becoming more common and is a better rating.  But, YMMV.

[redial]

\  Personally, I could care less about a Snell rating.  ECE-22.05 is becoming more common and is a better rating.  But, YMMV.

this seems to be becoming the consensus, but to each their own rating

Just curious, you know that all the flip front full face helmets actually only have 3/4 helmet safety ratings, yes?

although the nexx is not snell approved,  from webbikeworld.com
"The X30 meets ECE 22.05 safety standards as a full-face helmet.  The Nexx X30 sold in North America meets DOT standards."

so far i really like the nexx, it looks great i was at the motorcycle safety course today and even the instructor asked me where i got it.
its quiet, its very comfotable, its unique and the flip face and sunshield are both very nice features. The lack of a moving shield
is somewhat annoying but the defog vent works well at 15mph+. if i were commuting in the morning fog in stop and go traffic
i would definitely invest in a regular full face to round out the lineup, but stop and go with the whole face up is really fine, and its easy to lower once u pick up speed.

One thing that makes me mad is that most of the nice metallic colors from europe are not available in the US and the "soft" color is some sort of coating, i already have a
small tear in the back of the helmet. no idea what its from, i have never dropped it and the shell has never touched the ground. must be road debris.

If nexx ever makes a x30 maxijet II with a flipping visor in addition to the package they already have, i would definitely pick one up in another color.

I rate it a 8/10 as a 2ndary helmet, but it may not meet all your needs if it is a primary helmet depending on the climate and type of riding you do.
(pics to follow)
im just gonna post that blurb and the rest of the pics in a seperate thread so not to hijack, but heres one

[peanut_man]

I disagree with the post above.  Snell rated helmets are harder to pass the testing, and as such they transmit more force to the brain.  Personally, I could care less about a Snell rating.  ECE-22.05 is becoming more common and is a better rating.  But, YMMV.

I sorta knew this will start SNELL / DOT arguments.      But my point is that, there's no required testing for DOT, and enforcing it has been minimal.  At least w/ SNELL, you are guarantee some testing was done.  More detail here:  

http://4wheeldrive.about.com/cs/beginningatv/a/atvriderhelmets_4.htm

Most disturbing to me is the statement:

You might be surprised to learn that more than half of all helmets recently tested with the DOT sticker on them actually failed DOT's lab tests

None of the helmets I'm looking at so far has ECE-22.05 rating on it, but I'll surely look into it.  Also, you may want to give more detail around what you mean by Snell rated helmets are harder to pass the testing, and as such they transmit more force to the brain.  Harder to pass doesn't means more force to the brain.