Rossi Stoner 2007-2008 CURRENT RESULTS with prior year comparison SPOILER

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mikeb

Quote from: COWBOY on July 14, 2008, 04:53:46 PM

I got your point.  Stoner's wins (all 13 in the last 26 -27 races) are invalid and he still needs to prove his riding ability to you by winning on a different package.   [roll]


Wasn't my point at all.  

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Quote from: derby on July 14, 2008, 05:14:43 PM
you coulda warned us about the soundtrack.  :P

Sorry, all I heard was just some wah WAH wah wah in the background... what was it?
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Quote from: Speeddog on July 14, 2008, 05:20:57 PM
Sorry, all I heard was just some wah WAH wah wah in the background... what was it?

Not good - not really sure how else to describe it.

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COWBOY

Quote from: darylbowden on July 14, 2008, 01:54:03 PM
Man, I like everyone's chances the rest of the way...  Stoner, Rossi, Dani, any one of them could win the title and it will likely come down to the last race which is all I could ask for.

I'm with you there.  I liked 2006 for that reason.  Still don't want the dwarf to win and I wish Lorenzo hadn't almost killed himself 3 or 4 times over (I still think he's the future not Pedro) which would have made this a 4 way battle. 

I think Indy though could play a huge role.  Even if Stoner wins at the tracks he dominated last year if Rossi finishes second each time that would leave them tied.  Valencia will be Pedro's or Lorenzo's IMO.  That leaves Motegi and Indy as the open races.  Indy having no race data available makes it the wild card. 

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COWBOY

Quote from: mikeb on July 14, 2008, 04:59:10 PM
Wasn't my point at all.  

Quote from: mikeb on July 14, 2008, 02:01:03 PM
Or you could put Casey on an M1.  That way if he wins it would not only prove who the best rider is it'd prove Casey doesn't need the Duc to win.............

I've reread this a couple times now and don't see anything here but a backhanded way of saying Casey can't win without the Duc.

I certainly don't want to mislabel someone a leg humper.  In an effort to 1st understand rather than be understood please help me with the point you were attempting to make.

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mikeb

Quote from: COWBOY on July 14, 2008, 06:03:53 PM
I've reread this a couple times now and don't see anything here but a backhanded way of saying Casey can't win without the Duc.

I certainly don't want to mislabel someone a leg humper.  In an effort to 1st understand rather than be understood please help me with the point you were attempting to make.

That's because you've read too much into it.

My point was if the main charge against him is he can't win on the Duc than how does racing on Ducs shut up the critics? 

I was being sincere in my post.  I wasn't trying to back hand Stoner. 




COWBOY

Quote from: mikeb on July 14, 2008, 06:43:37 PM
That's because you've read too much into it.

My point was if the main charge against him is he can't win on the Duc than how does racing on Ducs shut up the critics? 

I was being sincere in my post.  I wasn't trying to back hand Stoner. 


Fair enough.

Most of the leg humpers er critics on here have assumed/argued that being on equal rubber, electronics or bikes Rossi would win - the Duc is almost secondary to that argument especially this year.  With a seat open it is theoretically possible for it to happen and for us to see that argument put to rest and that horse buried.  It's not likely as we all know, but one can dream. 

Your post came in the wake of 1.5 seasons of that argument - hence the leghumper jab.  It's all in good fun anyway so no harm no foul, but I apologize for mislabeling you.

For the newbies to this on going drama carrying over from TOB; for the record I pull for Americans's, Ducs and Rossi in that order.  If I had to chose a rider to pull for it would be old man Bayliss.  I am ardently anti-excuses and anti-leg humpers though and do enjoy the occasional tweaks and shit talking that racing and race fans engender.


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darylbowden

Quote from: COWBOY on July 14, 2008, 05:58:24 PM
Still don't want the dwarf to win and I wish Lorenzo hadn't almost killed himself 3 or 4 times over (I still think he's the future not Pedro) which would have made this a 4 way battle. 

Lorenzo's year this year kinda reminds me of Rossi's 2000 season when he crashed a bunch and was just really trying to come to grips with the 500, but still showed flashes of his future greatness.  I was really hoping for the 4-way battle to last, but I think that's a bit much to ask of any GP rookie.  I agree that he is the future of GP and I'm glad for it 'cause I think he's a nice guy who "get's it." 

As for Pedro, much like Stoner, I give him credit for being a great rider/racer (and champion in Stoner's case), but I just don't like them and I don't want to cheer for them.  Maybe they need new PR people or maybe they just need to wake up and realize that they race at the absolute pinnacle of the sport and they are two of the best riders on the planet, so maybe a little humility is in order.  Either way, Viva la Lorenzo!

COWBOY

Cool we'll get to root for the same guy.  Lorenzo has the heart/attitude/confidence of a champion.  I hope he lives up to it or probably more accurate, hope he is around to do so.


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I just wish Stoners' wife was hotter.

Odd...I don't like Lorenzo...but agree he'll be 'the man' in years to come.
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mikeb

Quote from: COWBOY on July 14, 2008, 07:01:42 PM
Fair enough.


Yeah, no worries.  I can see how it could be taken in the wrong way. 

I feel for the Stoner fans though.  I'm a Nicky fan so I know what it's like when your guy gets no respect.

But rivalries and smack talk are what racing is all about!   ;D

darylbowden

Quote from: ducpainter on July 15, 2008, 04:23:34 AM
I just wish Stoners' wife was hotter.


Me too, then all the tongue wagging would make sense to me...

derby

Quote from: darylbowden on July 15, 2008, 08:39:52 AM
Me too, then all the tongue wagging would make sense to me...

you just don't like white girls... adriana isn't "ethnic" enough for ya.  ;D
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Quote from: derby on July 15, 2008, 09:18:57 AM
you just don't like white girls... adriana isn't "ethnic" enough for ya.  ;D

Nah, I just don't like white boys... she's not feminine enough for me ;D