FIAT - Chrystler

[RAT900]

to hell with this Fiat/Chrysler crap...gimmee a brand new 1974 Dodge Dart with the slant 6 225 in it!

wish I still had my 66 Belvedere with the 383...uglier than sin but that sucker had torque that could pull tree-stumps

[duccarlos]

It's all about price points. You cn easily price yourself outside the market by counting on the same people that stand in line to buy the latest iPhone, even though they currently own practically the same thing.

[ab]

I took a look at the fiat use web site, but I don't see any price info on abrath ?  So which model is the abrath with 160hp ? and $?

[Bladecutter]

Price hasn't been officially released, shortly after the new year, but the really well informed people have had it told to them that the base 160 hp Abarth is going to start at $22,500.

Later in 2012, there will be a Sport Turbo, that will be ~130 hp, and that one will start at $19,500.

BC.

[ducatiz]

It really does show how dumb people are.

Front wheel drive car.. 160hp?  why?

The original 500 had a 2 cylinder, 479cc engine and a whopping 13hp.  They would get around 3L/100km, which is over 65mpg.

Seems to me the whole point of a miniature front-wheel drive car isn't to have good performance like a sports car, it's to have decent cheap gas mileage.

If they had come out with a new 500 that did that, I would have bought one, but really, it's just more of the same useless shit...

Give me a 1.0L class mini car that gets over 60 mpg averaged, and keep it around 10k and I'll buy one as a commuter car. 

Make YET ANOTHER mini car that gets crap gas mileage and really doesn't distinguish itself from every other mini car out there and charge 20-25k for it, and don't sell too many.

[RAT900]

It really does show how dumb people are.

Front wheel drive car.. 160hp?  why?

The original 500 had a 2 cylinder, 479cc engine and a whopping 13hp.  They would get around 3L/100km, which is over 65mpg.

Seems to me the whole point of a miniature front-wheel drive car isn't to have good performance like a sports car, it's to have decent cheap gas mileage.

If they had come out with a new 500 that did that, I would have bought one, but really, it's just more of the same useless shit...

Give me a 1.0L class mini car that gets over 60 mpg averaged, and keep it around 10k and I'll buy one as a commuter car. 

Make YET ANOTHER mini car that gets crap gas mileage and really doesn't distinguish itself from every other mini car out there and charge 20-25k for it, and don't sell too many.

[zooom]

Abarth Pricing....

http://www.kilometermagazine.com/artman2/publish/automotive/Fiat_Announces_Abarth_Pricing.html

[duccarlos]

Abarth Pricing....

http://www.kilometermagazine.com/artman2/publish/automotive/Fiat_Announces_Abarth_Pricing.html

+ track school.

[cokey]

Not bad..  and at under 2300 lbs should be fun..

[ab]

It really does show how dumb people are.

Front wheel drive car.. 160hp?  why?

The original 500 had a 2 cylinder, 479cc engine and a whopping 13hp.  They would get around 3L/100km, which is over 65mpg.

Seems to me the whole point of a miniature front-wheel drive car isn't to have good performance like a sports car, it's to have decent cheap gas mileage.

If they had come out with a new 500 that did that, I would have bought one, but really, it's just more of the same useless shit...

Give me a 1.0L class mini car that gets over 60 mpg averaged, and keep it around 10k and I'll buy one as a commuter car. 

Make YET ANOTHER mini car that gets crap gas mileage and really doesn't distinguish itself from every other mini car out there and charge 20-25k for it, and don't sell too many.

So true.  So true.  Despite my posing the question and researching this car and the curiosity of it's specs.

Yes, the original specs are more desirable especially with gas prices.  I grew up with the 70's fiat and long for those.

The 38mph gas for the new Fiat is disappointing for such a light weight.

I still like Fiat though.  Oh well.

[mitt]

Just saw a story on 60 minutes last night that was interesting

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403188n&tag=contentMain;contentAux

Sergio Marchionne sounds like an interesting guy.


mitt

[RAT900]

Indeed....certainly he does not come off as one of the fabulously self-important CEO's we have so many of here in the US

Paid off his gov't loans without shaving a cut for his personal bonuses

trying to rebuild something rather than sitting on its rotting carcass stuffing his pockets

I look at the exec line-up of so many failed/bailed-out US institutuions

and I see personalities more worthy of the Court of King Louis just prior to the French Revolution

fops and buffoons with hyper-inflated egos, a sense of self-entitlement and impunity that would embarrass the entire Kennedy Clan

perpetually drunk on the mythology of their own greatness

and entirely lacking the personal portfolio of accomplishments to back it up

3 cheers for Sergio

[Speedbag]

Oh, I don't know.....

Some of the auto industry trade stuff I've read doesn't bode well for Sergio and Chrysler. Dig around autoextremist.com for one for some gems....

[zooom]

Indeed....certainly he does not come off as one of the fabulously self-important CEO's we have so many of here in the US

Paid off his gov't loans without shaving a cut for his personal bonuses

trying to rebuild something rather than sitting on its rotting carcass stuffing his pockets

I look at the exec line-up of so many failed/bailed-out US institutuions

and I see personalities more worthy of the Court of King Louis just prior to the French Revolution

fops and buffoons with hyper-inflated egos, a sense of self-entitlement and impunity that would embarrass the entire Kennedy Clan

perpetually drunk on the mythology of their own greatness

and entirely lacking the personal portfolio of accomplishments to back it up

3 cheers for Sergio

ENRON anyone?.....

[ItsaDuc]

Oh, I don't know.....

Some of the auto industry trade stuff I've read doesn't bode well for Sergio and Chrysler. Dig around autoextremist.com for one for some gems....

Careful quoting this guy.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_30/b3944112.htm