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2010 Silly Season

Started by derby, June 24, 2009, 09:39:56 AM

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Jester

Jorge moving teams may be exactly the motivation Ducati needs to tweak that bike into a winner.  From a marketing perspective, Jorge is an excellent choice.  Tough to leave a known quantity for the unknown though.
09’ 848     07’ S2R800

gm2

Quote from: Jester on August 18, 2009, 09:29:06 AM
Jorge moving teams may be exactly the motivation Ducati needs to tweak that bike into a winner.  From a marketing perspective, Jorge is an excellent choice.  Tough to leave a known quantity for the unknown though.

or, known to be unrideable 90% of the time
Like this is the racing, no?

Jester

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swampduc

Quote from: Jester on August 18, 2009, 09:29:06 AM
Jorge moving teams may be exactly the motivation Ducati needs to tweak that bike into a winner.  From a marketing perspective, Jorge is an excellent choice.  Tough to leave a known quantity for the unknown though.
I'm not sure that motivation is the issue, unless you're saying that Jorge would be the definite #1 at Duc an therefore the bike would be developed completely differently.
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gm2

Quote from: swampduc on August 18, 2009, 10:21:47 AM
I'm not sure that motivation is the issue, unless you're saying that Jorge would be the definite #1 at Duc an therefore the bike would be developed completely differently.

the working assumption is that he'd be #1.  he would be in salary, supposedly.  and there's the panic factor going on right now for the guys at philip morris.  they need a #1 that's not on some weird medical issue.

as for development, ehhh.  you hope they would start being a lot more flexible.  i know that's been mentioned, but so far the ducati development paradigm, even for stoner, has been: here's your bike.  good luck.
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OT

I'm thinking Stoner's not coming back this year....

zooom

Quote from: gm2 on August 18, 2009, 08:38:58 AM
  wonder if he could pay to rent a GP9 for an afternoon...  ;)

I think it'd be really neat at the end of a season, since we all know the bikes from year to year undergo signifigant changes, to see a day after the end of the season where the previous year bikes are pulled out and the riders get to swap and ride the different machines and hear the honest to god reactions of each of the riders of the different machines and not the watered down boilerplate PC/PR stuff they have to normally say...like say for instance at the end of this year, they roll out on the GP8 machines ( so as to elminate some revealing or sharing of the more upgraded potential development they do during the year on that machine)and you get to hear people react to the Ducati or the Yamaha or the Kawasaki or the Honda....I mean, why not?...it would be a chance to hear unrestricted feedback from other unliscenced and uncommitted parties and it'd be a PR fiesta.
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derby

there are a few magazines that do just that (ride all the bikes after the last race) and do a comparison.
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gm2

no way spies is gonna podium before miller.
Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

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Like this is the racing, no?

pennyrobber

Quote from: zooom on August 18, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
I think it'd be really neat at the end of a season, since we all know the bikes from year to year undergo signifigant changes, to see a day after the end of the season where the previous year bikes are pulled out and the riders get to swap and ride the different machines and hear the honest to god reactions of each of the riders of the different machines and not the watered down boilerplate PC/PR stuff they have to normally say...like say for instance at the end of this year, they roll out on the GP8 machines ( so as to elminate some revealing or sharing of the more upgraded potential development they do during the year on that machine)and you get to hear people react to the Ducati or the Yamaha or the Kawasaki or the Honda....I mean, why not?...it would be a chance to hear unrestricted feedback from other unliscenced and uncommitted parties and it'd be a PR fiesta.

All though they do this, the camparison may not be relevant as they aren't pushing the bikes to the level that the GP riders do.
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superjohn

Quote from: pennyrobber on August 18, 2009, 02:54:47 PM
All though they do this, the camparison may not be relevant as they aren't pushing the bikes to the level that the GP riders do.

Not to mention that each bike gets tailored to the rider's style, which may not be applicable to another racer.

One man's 1:48 per lap machine is another's 1:48.7 or more

zooom

Quote from: pennyrobber on August 18, 2009, 02:54:47 PM
All though they do this, the camparison may not be relevant as they aren't pushing the bikes to the level that the GP riders do.

EXACTLY  why I'd like to see it from the GP riders and not from the press guys who are pushing at maybe 80% of the bike's potential....though some of them have extensive riding experience...none of them want to bin a million dollar machine they are being gratuitously handed to ride for publicity reasons only....
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i'd have to go back and look at the laptimes, but i'm pretty sure mamola was doing better than 80%.
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