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more outrageous DMG/Buell collusion

Started by gm2, July 15, 2009, 02:21:57 PM

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derby

#45
July 18, 2009, 02:12:40 PM
Quote from: gm2 on July 18, 2009, 10:49:14 AM
mebbe, don't recall.  but that's about 475 more available than the 1125RR, i bet.

i'd say you're being quite generous on the production numbers of said buell.  ;D
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ducpainter

#46
July 18, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: derby on July 18, 2009, 02:12:40 PM
i'd say you're being quite generous on the production numbers of said buell.  ;D
So....

2? ;D
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derby

#47
July 18, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
four... maybe six.

unless this bike is also going to be allowed in moto-whatever-they-call-it-this-year, there would only be a few teams interested in the first place.

and like i said to gm2 yesterday, who wants to pay that much money to run that far back in the pack?

some of the guys have shown what they can do with a built-in-their-own-garage gsxr... my guess is some of those guys will finish well in front of 1125RR.
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tufty

#48
July 18, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
I'm curious why people keep referencing Ducati in this thread. How is the 1098R a cheater bike? Seriously.

(4 banger guys stfu about the displacement thing ok? Thx ;) ;D)

ducpainter

#49
July 18, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
Quote from: derby on July 18, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
<snip>

and like i said to gm2 yesterday, who wants to pay that much money to run that far back in the pack?

<snip>

http://www.aliceteam.com/en/

Different venue...

but there must be someone. :P
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desmoquattro

#50
July 18, 2009, 05:16:30 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 18, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
http://www.aliceteam.com/en/

Different venue...

but there must be someone. :P


It's been a while since they updated their site.
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ducpainter

#51
July 18, 2009, 05:40:48 PM
Quote from: desmoquattro on July 18, 2009, 05:16:30 PM


It's been a while since they updated their site.
If you look really really closely there is mention of '09 and Canepa and Kallio. [laugh]

They're in the bigs though. ;)
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derby

#52
July 19, 2009, 04:52:06 AM
-- derby

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gm2

#54
July 19, 2009, 07:56:10 AM
Quote from: tufty on July 18, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
I'm curious why people keep referencing Ducati in this thread. How is the 1098R a cheater bike? Seriously.

(4 banger guys stfu about the displacement thing ok? Thx ;) ;D)

some contend that Pegram's bike has F09/non-homologated/not-available-to-anyone parts on it
Like this is the racing, no?

derby

#55
July 19, 2009, 08:29:37 AM
Quote from: gm2 on July 19, 2009, 07:56:10 AM
some contend that Pegram's bike has F09/non-homologated/not-available-to-anyone parts on it

which, with the current ruling on the 1125RR, why wouldn't it be legal for pegram to run an 1198RS?

ducati builds 'em... ducati supports 'em...

sounds legal to me.
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gm2

#56
July 19, 2009, 10:46:54 AM
the customer superbikes don't fit into the amorphous DMG definition of affordable..?
Like this is the racing, no?

derby

#57
July 19, 2009, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: gm2 on July 19, 2009, 10:46:54 AM
the customer superbikes don't fit into the amorphous DMG definition of affordable..?

well, they'll of course have to make some considerations for ducati. i mean, the street bike that the racebike is based off of costs as much as this new buell.  ;D
-- derby

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Retired rides: '05 Duc Monster S4R, '99 Yam YZF-R1, '98 Hon CBR600F3, '97 Suz GSX-R750, '96 Hon CBR600F3, '94 Hon CBR600F2, '91 Hon Hawk GT, '91 Yam YSR-50, '87 Yam YSR-50

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gm2

#58
July 19, 2009, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: derby on July 19, 2009, 04:52:06 AM
http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2009/07/18/mladin-speaks-out
"The main point of contention, according to many in the paddock, is that even though it is based on the 1125R, it has been homologated as a separate model and the homologation form states "AMA Pro American Superbike motorcycles must be street certified for use in the United States and be available at the time of competition from U.S. retail dealers." Buell has two 1125RR's for sale at Mid-Ohio. The 1125RR contains numerous chassis and engine parts that aren't separately homologated for use on the 1125R, which means you couldn't legally build an 1125RR out of legal pieces."

Like this is the racing, no?

mitt

#59
July 20, 2009, 09:19:28 AM
I like Mladdins point - a company could build a quarter million dollar prototype and still run in 10th if they don't have 1) the riders and 2) the support team.

He will probably get a scolding for this quote too:

"Q: You've run teams in the past, and that's probably something that interests you. Does this series interest you?

A: Oh, not at all. Oh, God no. No. I wouldn't - I would prefer to stick a screwdriver in my eye, rather than having to race like this, yeah, with my own team."



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