LDD2009 ...

[Drunken Monkey]

Because having people annoy and inconvenience you is exactly like trying to (probably unintentionally) kill random people who may, or may not be involved in the activities that annoy you is completely understandable, Mr I wins the moral relativist merit badge for the week.     

On that note, I think I'll go spike the coffee at an investment bank building with something quasi-lethal, because of the current recession and all.

I might accidentally kill someone who shares a dental office with the same address, but as long as you can follow my logic, it's all good. 

[johnc]

brilliant ... simply brilliant. 

Because having people annoy and inconvenience you is exactly like trying to (probably unintentionally) kill random people who may, or may not be involved in the activities that annoy you is completely understandable, Mr I wins the moral relativist merit badge for the week.     

On that note, I think I'll go spike the coffee at an investment bank building with something quasi-lethal, because of the current recession and all.

I might accidentally kill someone who shares a dental office with the same address, but as long as you can follow my logic, it's all good. 

[somegirl]

Uh, yeah, I would.  Didn't you ever go riding up there?  (I generally avoid the area for exactly that reason)

Because having people annoy and inconvenience you is exactly like trying to (probably unintentionally) kill random people who may, or may not be involved in the activities that annoy you is completely understandable, Mr I wins the moral relativist merit badge for the week.     

He's not talking about us.

We knew exactly what the roads were like, that's part of the reason we moved here.  In fact the seller's disclosures included describing the excessive motorcycle noise going by the house.

We enjoy seeing the bikes go by.  When I'm out walking the dogs I wave to those that go by.  We help out riders that are stranded because they run out of gas or have mechanical issues.

The majority of riders are fine, but there are some assholes out there that make us all look bad.

One Saturday I was in the car heading home from Palo Alto.  Get up to Alice's, see a group of motos waiting to take off together, they do so in the middle of a clump of cars.  Some of them are able to pass cars in the twisties, some are not.  I ended up at the end of a long slow line of cars/bikes, with one moto just in front of me, someone clearly a noob riding two-up. 

We finally get to La Honda, where his buddies are waiting on the shoulder for him.  He pulls over the shoulder behind them, I keep driving.  However, everybody else in his group is ready to take off and start passing me on the right in the shoulder (although they are still stuck behind another car).

A few turns later, we all turn left onto Pescadero.  However one rider missed the turn, ends up doing a U-turn on 84 (right in front of a corner), then turns right onto Pescadero, passing me on the right in the shoulder and wheelies up the hill.  They then proceeded to terrorize another car into pulling over, even though there is a safe stretch to pass there.

If I were a driver unfamiliar with motos and those roads, I would have been pretty freaked out.

There are lots of weekends where we get stuck or have to take extremely long detours because the main route through is blocked because there's been yet another accident.  Yes, I feel bad for whoever was in the accident, but how would you feel if major routes out of SF (280, 101, GG bridge, Bay Bridge) got closed down every weekend because someone pulls stunts?   What if you were scared to go check your mailbox because of motos railing down the road? 

We're not excusing the behavior of throwing stuff on the road (it pisses us off to no end too) but we can understand the frustration that might lead to it.  If we want people to treat us riders well we should behave well on public roads.

BTW, so far every neighbor I've met that has found out I ride has been very nice and friendly about it.

[johnc]

@ all ...

<soapbox> ok, i hope we are in violent agreement that it is the 1%'ers we are talking about here ... these are, as somegirl points out, the dushbags that by their idiotic acts of terrorizing cage drivers and pedestrians (either through their riding or excessively loud bikes, yes, i am targeting the dumbass harley RUBs here too), are continuing to giving ALL motorcyclists a bad image with cagers.

now, aside from these two successive years of road sabotage connected with LDD in la honda, i do read and hear too many times accounts of "responsible" motorcycle riders being targeted with road rage by cagers ... most likely brought on by a cager being buzzed by a dushbag moments before the "responsible" rider happens along.

it used to be that hell's angels were the ones that gave motorcycling a bad image/name.  the angels have gone low profile (at least on bikes) for quite some time now ... and have been replaced by the squid dushbag stunters newbies.
</soapbox>

[Popeye the Sailor]

Oh hell-I'm not saying there's any excuse for what these make the beast with two backsers did-hell that's the road I use to go to the damn supermarket.


My point is the shitty behavior that gets seen is why no one gives a shit it's a fundraiser.

[desmoquattro]

@ all ...

<soapbox> ok, i hope we are in violent agreement that it is the 1%'ers we are talking about here ... these are, as somegirl points out, the dushbags that by their idiotic acts of terrorizing cage drivers and pedestrians (either through their riding or excessively loud bikes, yes, i am targeting the dumbass harley RUBs here too), are continuing to giving ALL motorcyclists a bad image with cagers.

now, aside from these two successive years of road sabotage connected with LDD in la honda, i do read and hear too many times accounts of "responsible" motorcycle riders being targeted with road rage by cagers ... most likely brought on by a cager being buzzed by a dushbag moments before the "responsible" rider happens along.

it used to be that hell's angels were the ones that gave motorcycling a bad image/name.  the angels have gone low profile (at least on bikes) for quite some time now ... and have been replaced by the squid dushbag stunters newbies.
</soapbox>

You, of all people, should know how to spell douchebag correctly.

[johnc]

You, of all people, should know how to spell douchebag correctly.

but as i am one, i don't know how to spell douchebag korektlie