Hypermotard 796

[pennyrobber]

I don't care if the call it the Hypermotard 11tybillion, I'd still ride it.

[Travman]

Like Memphis said, it's not all that uncommon for motorbike companies to use supposed engine displacements in the model names for marketing purposes.  BMW's F6xx uses the same concept, only they advertise less than the actual displacement.  It's an 8xx cc motor that they down tune and named differently to seem more appealing to beginning riders (not many people want to start out on an 800cc bike).

I know it is not uncommon for motorcycle & car manufactures to use made up engine displacements in their model names for marketing reasons and I do know about the new BMW F650, but it still doesn't make it right.  I don't want to have to explain to anyone why my bike is called the F650 when it is really an 800 cc engine.  I don't mind if they round up just a little bit.  For example, the 1000 DS engine is really 992cc.  It really isn't a big deal, but if I had to ride my Hypermotard 796 around for a couple of years it would bug me when the new guy in the parts department gets confused when I need a part for my 796 and he couldn't find it in his database until someone explains that it is a 696. 

[kopfjäger]

you guys realize that is a 1100ds tard with a 796 poorly photoshopped on?


mitt

Really, and all along I thought these guys had the inside skinny.

[kopfjäger]

I know it is not uncommon for motorcycle & car manufactures to use made up engine displacements in their model names for marketing reasons and I do know about the new BMW F650, but it still doesn't make it right.  I don't want to have to explain to anyone why my bike is called the F650 when it is really an 800 cc engine.  I don't mind if they round up just a little bit.  For example, the 1000 DS engine is really 992cc.  It really isn't a big deal, but if I had to ride my Hypermotard 796 around for a couple of years it would bug me when the new guy in the parts department gets confused when I need a part for my 796 and he couldn't find it in his database until someone explains that it is a 696. 

The decals come off. 

[Jarvicious]

I know it is not uncommon for motorcycle & car manufactures to use made up engine displacements in their model names for marketing reasons and I do know about the new BMW F650, but it still doesn't make it right.  I don't want to have to explain to anyone why my bike is called the F650 when it is really an 800 cc engine.  I don't mind if they round up just a little bit.  For example, the 1000 DS engine is really 992cc.  It really isn't a big deal, but if I had to ride my Hypermotard 796 around for a couple of years it would bug me when the new guy in the parts department gets confused when I need a part for my 796 and he couldn't find it in his database until someone explains that it is a 696. 

Ehh, I'm over other people thinking my 800 is either more or less powerful than the next bike or thinking my S2R is only a 620, thinking an I4 600 is soooo much slower than my 800 Ducati (fastest bikes on earth), etc.  The stupid parts newbie aside (he would have to be pretty dense, BTW), I'm not gonna fret over name vs. displacement discrepancies, but I dig the concept of a more "around town" friendly 'tard.

[hbliam]

Other then being lighter (how much will be interesting) I'd rather have my 1100S. A smaller displacement bike isn't going to be any "easier" to ride around town. We are talking about about the easiest bike to ride around town to begin with. Granted I bought a CRF250X dirtbike and sold it a week later and bought the 450X. I like the ability to wheelie over or outrun problems I encounter in the road/dirt.

[Rameses]

I dig the concept of a more "around town" friendly 'tard.

Are you implying that the fullsize Hyper isn't easy to ride in town?

Have you ever ridden one?

Other then being lighter (how much will be interesting) I'd rather have my 1100S.

That's exactly what I was wondering too.

[junior varsity]

I would also like to see just how much "lighter" the smaller displacement bike will be.

It could be substantial, or it could be not all that much:

1999 M900 - 403.4# (dry) (carbd)
2000 M900 - 407.9# (dry) (ie)
2000 M750 - 392.4# (dry) (carbd)

2009 M1100 - 372.6# (dry)
2009 M696 - 354.9# (dry)

2009 1198 - 377.0# (dry)
2009 848 - 370.4 (dry)

i took data from www.bikez.com amongst all their horrendous ads.

[spolic]

DAVE!!!  What's the word.





Dave says....Wait until Oct 12 

[teddy037.2]

hmmm...

might be fun 

[Duck-Stew]

If they put the 66mm 800 crank into the 696 motor, since it shares the same bore as the 803cc '800' motor it would also be an 803cc.

Perhaps the new '796' moniker is to align it's heritage to the new 696 motor but differentiate it from the older 803cc '800' motor despite the fact that it would share the same bore and stroke.

[junior varsity]

Oh, that makes a lot of sense. I would think that's a logical plan to try out too.

[Raux]

If they put the 66mm 800 crank into the 696 motor, since it shares the same bore as the 803cc '800' motor it would also be an 803cc.

Perhaps the new '796' moniker is to align it's heritage to the new 696 motor but differentiate it from the older 803cc '800' motor despite the fact that it would share the same bore and stroke.

yep thinking about doing this too. stu, still have that crank?

[Duck-Stew]

yep thinking about doing this too. stu, still have that crank?

Yes I do. 

[Raux]

Yes I do. 

been thinking about this... probably should move the 696 engine upgrade thread but...
if i got the 66mm crank don't i need the rods to go with which would be shorter right? the 696 has a 10.7:1 compression ratio already so seems there wouldn't be much room for stock conrods to be used.

i know thread jack so i'll post this comment on the other thread as well
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29188.msg514147#msg514147