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Hypermotard 796

Started by sugarcrook, September 16, 2009, 12:32:26 PM

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bluemoco

Quote from: sugarcrook on September 23, 2009, 08:20:38 AM
If accurate, I like it.   [thumbsup]

They should be accurate.  They're the same pics you see on Ducati.com.  ;)
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PJFZ1

I was hoping for an even lower height and more weight savings... So that someone a bit newer to riding would feel comfortable picking one up.

Evil_Ductator

Man, saw this on ducati.com today and thought "cool, lower seat height!".  Then I looked.  0.8" lower.  probably not enough to make me buy it, I love the Hyper but with a 29" inseam it's simply too tall.

What I've really been hoping for though, since the release of the streetfighter, is an 848 version.  That would rock my world!

Goat_Herder

Quote from: Evil_Ductator on September 23, 2009, 08:52:47 AM
What I've really been hoping for though, since the release of the streetfighter, is an 848 version.  That would rock my world!

Good things come in small packages.  I like what I see with the 796.  Who knows, maybe Ducati IS listening to the public by creating more entry-level models under $10K.  Yes, now how about a Streetfighter 848?   [thumbsup]
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Quote from: Evil_Ductator on September 23, 2009, 08:52:47 AM
Man, saw this on ducati.com today and thought "cool, lower seat height!".  Then I looked.  0.8" lower.  probably not enough to make me buy it, I love the Hyper but with a 29" inseam it's simply too tall.


My wife is 5'-4" and can ride my Multistrada. You can ride a Hyper...just gotta get used to the height. All it takes is being careful (i.e. planning) with stops when you're getting used to the bike.  [thumbsup]

Latinbalar

why not make it more "dirt-bikeish" I mean its supposed to be a supermoto right why not make it like a Aprilla,  Something to compete with KTM.
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bluemoco

Quote from: Latinbalar on September 23, 2009, 10:11:47 AM
why not make it more "dirt-bikeish" I mean its supposed to be a supermoto right why not make it like a Aprilla,  Something to compete with KTM.

It is comparable to an Aprilia.  Witness the Dorsoduro 750:



Not any direct competitors from KTM, though it could be argued that the 690 Duke might appeal to the same buyer profile.



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Duck-Stew

With more weight reduction...that could be a REALLY fun Ducati.

Like single rotor w/upgrades, some wire reduction, drilling out the rotors...   

Hmmm......  :D
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Raux

 [bang]  errrr just noticed the 796 HM gets the SSS... NOT fair

Duck-Stew

They could've re-used the steel DSS from the Multi620... 
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Quote from: PJFZ1 on September 23, 2009, 08:31:29 AM
I was hoping for an even lower height and more weight savings... So that someone a bit newer to riding would feel comfortable picking one up.

27lbs is a HUGE weight savings IMO
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Quote from: bluemoco on September 23, 2009, 10:20:36 AM
It is comparable to an Aprilia.  Witness the Dorsoduro 750:



Not any direct competitors from KTM, though it could be argued that the 690 Duke might appeal to the same buyer profile.





the dorsoduro is more like Hyper1100 competition... ithink it has a bit more horsepower....
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Quote from: Big Troubled Bear on September 23, 2009, 04:40:16 AM
Bigger engine than the 696 then [thumbsup], but 1 HP more according to their dyno [bang]
It does have 5 more ft/lbs of torque.  55.7 ft/lbs for the 796 vs. 50.6 ft/lbs @ 7750 rpms for the 696. 

It is interesting that they created a new 796 engine.  I wonder if this will go into the smaller 696 Monster in a couple of years to become the 796 Monster.  They list a bore and stroke of 88mm X 66mm.  What was the bore and stroke of the 803cc Monster motor?  Why didn't they just use the 803cc motor in this bike?

There is going to be an all Matte black version and an all red version too.  Ducati will probably save these for the show.

The 690 Duke will definitely be a competitor to this new 796 Hyper.  It looks like they will cost about the same.  The 796 is listed at $9995 on the U.S. website.  IIRC that is what the 690 Duke sells for. 

Raux

Quote from: Travman on September 23, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
It does have 5 more ft/lbs of torque.  55.7 ft/lbs for the 796 vs. 50.6 ft/lbs @ 7750 rpms for the 696. 

It is interesting that they created a new 796 engine.  I wonder if this will go into the smaller 696 Monster in a couple of years to become the 796 Monster.  They list a bore and stroke of 88mm X 66mm.  What was the bore and stroke of the 803cc Monster motor?  Why didn't they just use the 803cc motor in this bike?

There is going to be an all Matte black version and an all red version too.  Ducati will probably save these for the show.

The 690 Duke will definitely be a competitor to this new 796 Hyper.  It looks like they will cost about the same.  The 796 is listed at $9995 on the U.S. website.  IIRC that is what the 690 Duke sells for. 


the 696 motor is better than the 803 with better combosution chamber shape and heads. reason there was such a increase between teh 695 to 696.

so a better starting point for more cc's.

Travman

The heads sit on top of the pistons.   Why change the bore and stroke of the exiting 803 engine?  Why not simply update the heads?