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Started by transplanted, October 19, 2009, 12:01:05 PM

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transplanted

Would you have S&P's website?

Quote from: Raux on October 20, 2009, 11:11:07 AM
there are several companies that make fork lowers for the ohlins including style and performance (desmoworks is one of their suppliers)


junior varsity

i been eyeballin' these billet lowers for awhile, but my showas are 41, not 43. ho hum.

breakdown

I would definitely look into new fork internals rather than swapping to Ohlins forks.

Also, good call on not getting the DP Ohlins forks.  I've heard the Ohlins that come with the S model are pretty much the cheapest forks that Ohlins makes.

Ducatl

Quote from: transplanted on October 20, 2009, 11:54:13 AM
The triples were never my issue. My issue was that the forks I'm getting FGRT 806 have the radial fork bottoms for the CBR1000rr. My options are;

1. Use my existing wheels, brakes etc.. To do this I need to get the radial fork bottoms changed to I.e. 848 radial fork bottoms, or another supplier that can provide same as M1100 specs, or see if the Showa radial fork bottoms from my bike will mount to the FGRT806.

2. Leave the Ohlins as is purchase CBR1000 10 spoke marchessinni wheel, brakes, etc..however for everything to bolt up properly without custom work, the spacing on the CBR1000 triples has to be the same as the M1100 or else wheels, brakes, etc..won't fit. Unless it's just a spacer issue which can be resolved very easily.


It doesn't necessarily have to be the same, most of the differences can be compensated for with spacers.  The issue would be, what is the width difference at the rotor and at the bearings between the stock m1100 wheel and the cbr wheel.

kopfjäger

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Raux

Quote from: kopfjäger on October 20, 2009, 10:09:42 PM
www.styleandperformance.it

their site is very frustrating right now but i do know they are working on a new one.

kopfjäger

Quote from: Raux on October 20, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
their site is very frustrating right now but i do know they are working on a new one.

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transplanted

Thank you. They have a lower fork bottom for the Ohlins 848 upgrade (KPR.98.OH.08 Bottom fork for radial brake 108 , billet for Ohlins fork Ducati 1098 R and S + 848)

I inquired with them and desmoworks about that fitting on to the Ohlins FGRT806. Same size forks 43mm. However I'm not sure what the 108 means in the product description. I'm hoping it's not 108mm for the brake caliper because the Monster is 100mm.

Raux

Quote from: transplanted on October 21, 2009, 03:34:22 AM
Thank you. They have a lower fork bottom for the Ohlins 848 upgrade (KPR.98.OH.08 Bottom fork for radial brake 108 , billet for Ohlins fork Ducati 1098 R and S + 848)

I inquired with them and desmoworks about that fitting on to the Ohlins FGRT806. Same size forks 43mm. However I'm not sure what the 108 means in the product description. I'm hoping it's not 108mm for the brake caliper because the Monster is 100mm.


the 100mm is the distance between the mounting bolts. some of the other brakes are 108mm.

just tell them what you need.

booger

Quote from: breakdown on October 20, 2009, 03:49:39 PMI would definitely look into new fork internals rather than swapping to Ohlins forks.

+1
If Traxxion, RaceTech, Dept. Of Suspension, Lindemann Engineering, etc. do not have anything for the M1100 Showas it's because they haven't had a fork to use as a template yet. Send them your fork and they will make it happen. That's the easiest, cheapest, and smartest way to go. Not an opinion, but fact.
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caperix

Quote from: transplanted on October 20, 2009, 11:45:40 AM

Couple of questions:
-Would the Showa M1100 fork bottoms bolt up to the Ohlins? they're both 43mm. If they do then that would be a significant savings.
-What labour is involved in switching out the bottoms? Is this a bench job or can it be done while attached to the bike?

Thanks!





I am also interested in knowing how to remove the lower from a showa fork.  I have searched the internet and have yet to find how it is done.  I can see a small allen set screw in the side, and I figgure the rebound adjuster needs to be removed.  Other than that is it just a mater of clamping the tubes in a vise and unscrewing the bottoms?  I am thinking of power coating mine.

Raux

Quote from: caperix on November 07, 2009, 02:41:34 AM

I am also interested in knowing how to remove the lower from a showa fork.  I have searched the internet and have yet to find how it is done.  I can see a small allen set screw in the side, and I figgure the rebound adjuster needs to be removed.  Other than that is it just a mater of clamping the tubes in a vise and unscrewing the bottoms?  I am thinking of power coating mine.

heard the same thing. it's hard but basically you just unscrew if from the bottom. maybe a strap-wrench and vise. i am going to a shop that knows how to do this and ask more questions next week.

junior varsity

I talked to some AMS guys about this - said they used to do it all the time for AMA racing, and they said its a humongous pain in the ass (not that it can't be done). Somethin' to think aboot, eh.

Greg

I realize this is an old thread, but does anyone have anything new to add on upgrading M1100 forks?
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