Good Cameras

[mostro900]

Its good to see that I can get unprovoked, un-biased and professional advice from you lot, I've looked on a couple of 'other' sites to try and get a handle on what does what, but they seem to backflip after a couple of comments just too confusing.

Come to think of it this will be my 2nd Canon, as I had one eight years ago, used to take it just about everywhere with me but if finally gave up.

                                            Mmick

don't worry about Mick, as they say....the best camera is the one you have with you. oh, that and a bit of technique goes a long way...just like riding a bike! Enjoy and never mind the critics if you post any pics up...which we'll expect soon...

[monstermick58]

Shortly after posting up my last reply I found a really good site that got my attention and really gave the camera a work out and compared it to a Panasonic Lumix model which were pretty much on par with each other, the only thing that the Lumix had that the Canon didnt was the ability to zoom whilst in movie mode, oh, and a slightly better screen on the back which was more visible in bright light, but the Canon has more of a manual control if you like that (which I do) so it looks like I'm on a winner, oh yeah, it does'nt come with a memory card so I'm looking where to buy one from plus a spare battery looks like BestBatt.commight be the place to shop, anyone used this mob or have a better place to shop??



                                           Mmick

[mattyvas]

ahem, I believe Craig may be right actually !   

Yeah he is right he rides a Monster.

Seriously though Nikon have finally made a good DSLR but it has taken them 10yrs to do so.
Meanwhile the market has all taken Canon as preferred option.
More stable sensor, better exposures and easier to use.
Canon glass does need to catch up but then it is cause there cameras are so far ahead.
my recent two cameras have shown the lenses to be not quite up to the job but we are also talking about
the extreme ends of aperture and ISO range.

[Ita]

I hate to be a Canon FANBOY     But we dropped Nikon about 10 years ago...  We had DX1 's and then DX2's.   Great cameras but heavy and very exy$$$  Replaced them with Canon 300d then 350d now 400d...  We have 120 cameras at our office...  They are treated like shit, but work well and not one warrarty claim...   Canon ROCK...

Ita

[mattyvas]

 

[goldFiSh]

Shortly after posting up my last reply I found a really good site that got my attention and really gave the camera a work out and compared it to a Panasonic Lumix model which were pretty much on par with each other, the only thing that the Lumix had that the Canon didnt was the ability to zoom whilst in movie mode, oh, and a slightly better screen on the back which was more visible in bright light, but the Canon has more of a manual control if you like that (which I do) so it looks like I'm on a winner, oh yeah, it does'nt come with a memory card so I'm looking where to buy one from plus a spare battery looks like BestBatt.commight be the place to shop, anyone used this mob or have a better place to shop??



                                           Mmick

www.digitalcamerawarehouse.com.au

it,s not just a web site, they have real stores (their head office is about 5 mins from  me).
bought out last 4 cameras there, and all the accessories. check it out, I highly recommend them..

ps don't forget a good case as well...

[Dannog]

I've been buying canon cameras for decades!. My first one was a T70 (still have it along with lenses an all)

More recently always had the pocket shooters Ixus models....... had a bunch of them.

My daughter is about to embark on photography for the HSC so I've been thinking about getting a G10 now probably a G11 given its the latest model and since meeting you lot the what I've always personally thought about canon is reinforced in spades.

Now question, what the deal with shooting in RAW format? Is it really necessary? Sorry about the thread-jack

[monstermick58]

Now question, what the deal with shooting in RAW format? Is it really necessary? Sorry about the thread-jack

No, its a good question dan, but firstly, what is RAW format??




                                                      Mmick

[monstermick58]

Oh! here it is

What is Raw Mode?
When a digital camera makes an exposure the imaging chip (whether it's CCD or CMOS) records the amount of light that has hit each pixel, or photo site. This is recorded as a voltage level. The camera's analog to digital circuitry now changes this analog voltage signal into a digital representation. Depending on the camera's circuitry either 12 or 14 bits of data are recorded. Incidentally, if the camera records 12 bits of data then each pixel can handle 4,096 brightness levels (2^12), and if 14 bit then it can record 16,384 different brightness levels (2^14). (To my knowledge no current imaging chip records a true 16 bits worth of data).

Of course what happens after you've taken the photograph depends on whether you have the camera set to save images to the memory card as raw files or JPGs.

If you've saved the file in raw mode when it is subsequently loaded into a raw conversion program and then saved to a TIFF or .PSD format file it can be exported in 16 bit mode. The 12 or 14 bits recorded by the camera are then spread over the full 16 bit workspace. If you've saved the file in-camera as a JPG than it is converted by the camera's software to 8 bit mode and you will only ever have 256 brightness levels to work with.


Simple innit



                                      Mmick

[mattyvas]

Very simple Mmick.
I think about that all the time when I am shooting RAW's.

[craigo]

This dude sums it up pretty well  (if not a little harshly): "WHICH SHOULD YOU SHOOT (RAW or JPG)? If you have to ask then just shoot JPG." http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm He then goes into mind numbing detail and explains it all. For about 50 Million Pages*.

JPGs are just way more usable on the internetz for 99% of purposes. Unless you are a Pro or a photoshop tweaking freak, .jpg is probably the easiest bet.


* may not be 50 million pages, but it's frikin long.

[Dannog]

I was chatting with a camera nut in a specialty store the other day and he said that teh G10 was replaced so quickly because of the 'low level noise' resulting from the excessive MegaPixel size. He said that it was just to great for the image sensor. The G11 has used a smaller Megapixel so that it is perfectly matched with teh sensor hence the photos are way better.

I had asked if he had G10's in hope that there may be a bargain about and he came up with the above. It certainly sounds like a good reason.

bye the way the price was $749.00 which I thought was pretty good for a store price!

[monstermick58]

None of us are weird, we all just like Canon G cameras and Monsters of whatever type DSS or SSS
Same same

Right, I've defected.

Yep, I went back to DSE and asked them if I could exchange it for a ..........


















PANASONIC - LUMIX  TZ7........ cos it had zoom on movie mode, no not really, it was simply because the Canon, every time you powered up, it stuck its little flash up, right on the left hand side where you hold it. thats it. Gee I hope I did the right thing 







                                                      Mmick

[heatherp]

You have to get what you will use Mick. On all the othere canons with a pop up flash, the flash is more central.  It's only the model you had that has the flash there.  Be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Lumix.

Little bit of a threadjack:  Has anyone dealt with digital camera warehouse by mail order?  I'm having heaps of trouble with them because I use mobile numbers and PO box instead of landline and street address.  They are real Nazis.  I have just sent them a rather stinging email so I'll probably never get my parcel now. 

[bazz20]

This dude sums it up pretty well  (if not a little harshly): "WHICH SHOULD YOU SHOOT (RAW or JPG)? If you have to ask then just shoot JPG." http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm He then goes into mind numbing detail and explains it all. For about 50 Million Pages*.

JPGs are just way more usable on the internetz for 99% of purposes. Unless you are a Pro or a photoshop tweaking freak, .jpg is probably the easiest bet.


* may not be 50 million pages, but it's frikin long.

the person that wrote thats is a complete dick head first of all ever since i can remember if the camera has raw mode they come supplied with the software also if the camera is any good it will have shoot in raw and jpeg at the same time and finnally with raw when you save that file and pass it too another file there no loss not like jpeg every time you resave a jpeg file or back up the file data will be lost and the biggest thing about raw is you can do anything too the file not what the camera does especially if you shoot in black and white cheers bazz