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Started by SacDuc, May 13, 2010, 06:21:45 AM

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NoisyDante

Tandoori chicken is done that way, I think the idea is to have it absorb.

I wish there was a better greek place out here, there was an excellent place in Boston I'd frequent.  LA just isn't a food mecca.
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 20, 2010, 09:07:10 AM
I've gotten into experimenting and trying to come up with a good greek style marinade for pork

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Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 20, 2010, 09:07:10 AM
I've gotten into experimenting and trying to come up with a good greek style marinade for pork

tons of recipes out there on the net, so I have been mixing and matching.


basic is:

1/4 cup lemon juice
1 cup EVO
Oregano
seasoned salt
greek seasoning
black pepper
fresh pressed garlic


I don't really measure out anything other than the liquids involved, the rest is just experimentation.

Be sure to brine the pork overnight. Single best thnig that can be done to pork prior to cooking, regardless of cooking method. Then mairinate for 3-5 hours...any longer is generally a waste of time.

cyrus buelton

Quote from: Triple J on May 20, 2010, 11:17:11 AM
Be sure to brine the pork overnight. Single best thnig that can be done to pork prior to cooking, regardless of cooking method. Then mairinate for 3-5 hours...any longer is generally a waste of time.

Brining is soaking the meat in salt water, correct?


What sort of proportions of water to salt to meat poundation is recommended?

Also, what does brining do? And does it give the meat a salty taste?
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NoisyDante

Salt water and herbs, often lemon if it is for chicken, juniper, rosemary, peppercorns, etc.

I believe it is to flavor it uniformely, though if you brine it for too long it will get salty.  The main purpose of the salt in this case is to enhance the other flavors.

There's an excellent description of this in that 'Ad Hoc' book I just got, I'll look it up when I get home.  Off the top of my head I think I used a ratio of 1 cup of salt to 2 gallons of water, I will check however.
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 20, 2010, 11:35:31 AM
Brining is soaking the meat in salt water, correct?


What sort of proportions of water to salt to meat poundation is recommended?

Also, what does brining do? And does it give the meat a salty taste?

Any liquid, any herbs or flavoring, and salt. Salt and liquid is the only constant.

For a 1 or 2 tenderloins I use 1/4c salt, 1/4 c brown sugar, and maybe 4 cups of water...maybe 6. Whatever fits in the pan when you heat it to get the salt/sugar to dissolve.

I've also used various fruit juices or stock in lieu of water...many different spices/herbs...experiment. Salt and a liquid is the only thing you have to have.

The key is rinse the meat WELL when you remove it from the brine so it isn't salty. Too much salt will also make it salty, but 1/4 cup seems to work well.

I pretty much brine any poultry or pork that I cook, unless I don't have time. No point brining for less than say 6 hours...overnight is best.


Triple J

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Quote from: NoisyDante on May 20, 2010, 11:54:54 AM
I believe it is to flavor it uniformely, though if you brine it for too long it will get salty.  The main purpose of the salt in this case is to enhance the other flavors.


Nope...the salt is not to enhance the flavors.

I don't know the chemical reaction going on, but the salt in the brine prevents the meat from drying out during cooking.

edit...here's an explanation:
http://www.finecooking.com/articles/why-brining-keeps-meat-moist.aspx


NoisyDante

ahh yes, there was something about curing in his description, gotta read up on it
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Brining overnight works best for me also, any more and things get too salty. My brine recipe: 1/2c pickling salt, 1/2c brown sugar, 1tbsp black pepper, 1tbsp garlic powder, 1qt water; mix enough to submerge your meat  ;D and you're good to go.

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Triple J

#54
Since we're talking about brining, pork, and food in general...here's my favorite way to cook pork baby back ribs:

Everyone says low and slow...whatever. I used to do it this was...and it is good, but...


-- Brine however many racks you want overnight. I like OJ, salt, and brown sugar as the brine.
-- Rinse well.
-- Apply your favorite dry rub (spicy preferred)and let sit for a couple hours at room temp, while the meat comes to room  temp.
-- Get your grill good and hot.
-- Grill, 20 minutes on each side, over high heat. The meat will pull away from the bone on the ends.
-- Remove from grill, apply your favorite sauce (again, spicy), and serve.

This method will produce very tasty, and extremely tender ribs.  [thumbsup] You get the sweet from the OJ in the brine, salty from the brine and rub, and spicy from the rub and sauce...great combo.

I used to think low and slow was the only way. Then Bobby Flay did a Throw Down against an old guy from North Carolina who was all about cooking baby backs high and quick. He whipped Flay (who did low and slow), and his ribs looked amazing...so I gave it a shot. It's now my preferred method.  [thumbsup] I save the low and slow for large hunks of pork or beef.

rgramjet

Quote from: NoisyDante on May 20, 2010, 09:45:47 AM
Maybe marinating in yogurt for a time would be Greekish wouldn't it?  I've never tried it with pork, done it with chicken, but more for an Indian stye.

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If you try the big pot of death let me know how it turns out.  [thumbsup]

I think that chili could use a good does of Innards!  Maybe some beef heart, chicken gizzards/hearts and maybe some tripe.......chopped coarsely.  People will know its good, just not wtf it is. 

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Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
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rgramjet

Too funny.....just checked and evidently I made a reference to Innards/Giblets in the previous thread as well.  Its like Deja Vu all over again.

At least Im consistent with my giblet fetish.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-Sofadriver

What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!

NoisyDante

Ha, I believe the memorable quote from that one was "Grilled Peruvian Animal Heart is the Bomb!"

hilarious
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Nitewaif

Quote from: rgramjet on May 20, 2010, 01:27:18 PM
Too funny.....just checked and evidently I made a reference to Innards/Giblets in the previous thread as well.  Its like Deja Vu all over again.

At least Im consistent with my giblet fetish.

When I was a kid, dad had one rule about food:  No nuts, guts, organs and shit in this house.   [puke]  He grew up on a farm and evidently was grossed-out as a kid.  As you can imagine, we weren't adventurous eaters.  I remember once my grandma came over with some chicken livers (first time I'd ever seen them), and he wouldn't let her bring them in the house. 

rgramjet

Quote from: Nitewaif on May 21, 2010, 06:07:24 AM
When I was a kid, dad had one rule about food:  No nuts, guts, organs and shit in this house.   [puke]  He grew up on a farm and evidently was grossed-out as a kid.  As you can imagine, we weren't adventurous eaters.  I remember once my grandma came over with some chicken livers (first time I'd ever seen them), and he wouldn't let her bring them in the house. 

You dont know what your Missing! Guts=Good!
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-Sofadriver

What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!