696 Mapping probs

[SolidSnake3035]

Bah!  All of this crap is making my purchase decision even more difficult. 

[Howie]

As jerryz said, less BTUs means less power.  Add to this the atomization problem and you have O₂ sensor trying to over compensate which can be a cause of surge.  Ethanol in the is affecting all vehicles, not just our beloved ducs.  The V twin is just more sensitive compared to an I4 or your car's  6 or 8 cylinder engine.

[MOUSEMAN]

Now it doesn't want to start!  I'm over it!!!!!!  KTM Duke sounds good about now.

[bulldogs2k]

Now it doesn't want to start!  I'm over it!!!!!!  KTM Duke sounds good about now.

Did you take it back to Ducati yet?  Sorry to hear this man, I think I'll wait out the 696 as long as I can.

[gearhead]

 Snake, don't sweat it man. I wouldn't change a thing. I would drive 500 miles again to go pick mine up tomorrow at the drop of a hat if I had an option too. Don't get all freaked out dude....it's a forum, thats all.

[jerryz]

Its not only the 696 that is affected by Gasohol all closed loop ducatis have problems with as does my open loop S4,, other vehicles such as my Nissan car and the HDs i see everyday in the shop also run less well on Gasohol.The Hds are gasohol compatible burt lose 10% power and 10% gas mileage and pink badly on Gasohol but run perfectly on 91RON regular gas.

[707soldier]

Ok Guys,
Question:
Is the "696 Mapping probs" only for bike's with modified exhaust?
I'm not having any of this problem with the stock set up. 
Best of luck to all having this issue.

[ducturd]

Put the Termis on my bike this week. They sound great. Louder than the Termis on my 996. Wasn't expecting that! Too quiet with the baffles (a switch I could flick would be perfect).

On my first highway ride with them, I noticed the phenomenon discussed in this thread. Cruising around 70mph in 6th. Engine oil temp goes up, engine starts lugging, and I start losing speed. Giving more gas has no effect. I pulled into a slower lane and slowed down to about 63mph. After a few minutes, oil temp goes down and everything is "normal" again.

I'm starting to think that there's a dip in the powerband that I was getting "stuck" in (air resistance and gravity keeping me there). I've found that if I cruise around 5000rpm everything's fine. Of course at 5000rpm, I'm going 80mph.

[bulldogs2k]

How loud are the stock exhaust?  I should be fine if I keep the bike stock, does the problem still exist with slip ons?

[gearhead]

 The stock exhaust has a nice thump to it at idle. As I have said many times, I'm running just the slip ons with baffles and it runs just like stock, which to say is pretty damn good.

[bulldogs2k]

The stock exhaust has a nice thump to it at idle. As I have said many times, I'm running just the slip ons with baffles and it runs just like stock, which to say is pretty damn good.

I feel like I should just take the plunge and buy one! 

[zedsaid]

Gotta say, i've been reading all about this, as i plan on getting a 696, and it sounds to me like it's a mostly US phenomenon...

and from looking at the manual at ducati.com it seems like the US is the only place the bike doesn't have the catalytic converter (except for Cali, where i am)  so i'm curious if maybe the Cat is helping the issue out.  Something to do with the backpressure it creates?

Anyone in Cali having the issue? (i'm too lazy to reread the thread, but it didn't jump out to me the last dozen times i refreshed through it)  anyone with the catalyzed version having the problem?

[gearhead]

 Interesting you bring that up. I also own an 02 vfr 800 that has a cat on it. I also bought a set of Staintunes for it and they have an outlet hole bigger than the Termi yet they are way quiter, at least by nearly half. I believe the cat acts as a muffler but the hot ticket is to find a 1998 vfr 800 head pipe that doesn't have the cat on it and adapt it to the bike. My VFR also has O2 sensors and to rid the bike of the surging it has you get rid of the sensore and replace a 300 ohm resistor across the wires to trick the computer.

[MOUSEMAN]

The overheating thing was what worriewd me the most. The little bar graph was pegged at eight bars. Which according to the manual is 191-200 degrees C, (375-390 F). Thats hot. It hasen't overheated yet, althouh I only went back on the highway once. The roughness and surging can be cured with max throttle. I love riding this bike it feels so light, stops like a superbike, and fits great. I did bring it back to the dealer after I couldn't start it the other day. The tech worked for about an hour and it runs pretty good now. All he was able to do was fiddle with the idle speed and mixture. It idles a little high but I don't notice any surging like before.

[wbeck257]

If it were my bike I'd ride the shit out of it and let it burn up.
Then let Ducati deal w/ that.