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Started by Spidey, June 10, 2010, 09:07:48 AM

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gm2

Quote from: zooom on July 09, 2010, 03:41:55 AM
maybe I am thinking too much...

gee ya think?   ;D

he doesn't ride that bike.  maybe he has never ridden it.  this was just to see if the guy with the very broken leg can ride at all.  and they could not put him on the M1.  the times are irrelevant.
Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

Quote from: gm2 on July 09, 2010, 04:35:45 AM
gee ya think?   ;D

he doesn't ride that bike.  maybe he has never ridden it.  this was just to see if the guy with the very broken leg can ride at all.  and they could not put him on the M1.  the times are irrelevant.

yes I know this was more to evaluate his ability in comparo to his current healing status...

no, he doesn't ride that bike, but he has ridden it...a few times even...I mean...after all...he did help develop parts for that bike and probably knows that bike better than the R6 he used in that cornering demonstration video he did a year or so ago...

yes I know they couldn't have put him on an M1, at least not a 2010 M1....I don't think there is a rule saying that he can't or couldn't ride a 2008 or 2009 bike? or is there a stipulation saying exactly that?

times are not irrelevant if Brivio and Yamaha both bring it up or compare them to anything (ie:saying they are respectable, and listing times)...they could have just mentioned the # of laps done and expounded on Rossi's feelings and this wouldn't even be an issue for discussion...

and good deflection on your master plan to be impregnated by The Ben....we hath done found you out!...you conniving minx you!...LOL
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Quote from: zooom on July 09, 2010, 04:54:50 AM
but he has ridden it...a few times even...

when? 

the street version R1 for commercials, a lap around IOM, etc is very different than the wsbk R1.

Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

I will 100% give you that a street version and the WSBK that Crutchlow runs that Rossi borrowed are like saying a WSBK and an GP bike are the same...they are very different animals indeed...but yet...not in certain ways...


and BTW...are you feeling nitpicky or something?
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lol.. no.  i was just doing 5 things at once.  :)

to my knowledge he's never ridden the wsbk R1.  and Brivio saying the times are respectable.. they sure as hell are for a guy who had bones sticking out of his leg last month.  it's not like this test was to see if he wanted to move to wsbk.  no one even suggested that he was pushing.  i think he was just cruising around... you know, to the extent that he can tolerate 'cruising'

Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

no question he was "cruising" to a degree...granted at a faster pace than you or I could acheive...but I have to believe that Rossi was pushing for to see where HIS thresholds were for pain and ability for assessment and evaluation...and some of the things I am sure he was trying to keep in mind, weren't things you can exactly measure or deal with in physical therapy....and THAT is all they had to mention in the briefs to the public....


back to the question of whether he could have done this evaluation on an '08/'09 M1 bike though?...would that have been legal?
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some perspective:

a worldsbk-spec r1 with no setup baseline for the 16.5in wheels/bridgestone tires he was using...

the focus was on seeing if he was able to ride around his current state of recovery, not develop a race setup or set track records.
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Quote from: zooom on July 09, 2010, 05:46:43 AM
back to the question of whether he could have done this evaluation on an '08/'09 M1 bike though?...would that have been legal?

other than the bikes in rossi's living room, supposedly none of those exist
Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

nice piece....

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100709millerrossi.htm

I especially like the quote from "On Any Sunday" he starts out with...
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http://motomatters.com/news/2010/07/11/rossi_to_test_at_brno_on_monday_to_annou.html

Rossi to ride Toseland's bike today at Brno....and this piece I found interesting...

Rossi will also be using Pirelli tires, rather than the Bridgestones he used at Misano, making a direct comparison between Rossi's times and those of the World Superbike riders much easier

so that goes back to begging the question as to what Yamaha or Brivio or anyone else calculating and comparing thought of his last go round of times to call them "respectable" since he IS being compared to the pilot of whose bike he was riding as well as in general...not just as an injured guy who is just out turning laps to assess health and fitness and being timed for no other reason....

maybe I am beating a dead horse somewhat....but it will be interesting...and of course...he is supposed to have a press conference afterward to say when and where his thinks his next race/gridding up will be as well as maybe the formal wet your panties announcement that we have all been anticipating...
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gm2

lapping in 1'59.135. That's 0.16 quicker than Cal Crutchlow's lap record, on the same bike...
Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

So it's taking him a while to get used to the Pirellis, eh?
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Like this is the racing, no?

zooom

Quote from: gm2 on July 12, 2010, 08:37:33 AM
lapping in 1'59.135. That's 0.16 quicker than Cal Crutchlow's lap record, on the same bike...

I can't see the Twitter link in the motomatters link(damn firewall at work).....is he lapping at that pace, or has put a few laps at that time down and is otherwise lapping at 2'00+?...
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Quote from: zooom on July 12, 2010, 09:05:09 AM
I can't see the Twitter link in the motomatters link(damn firewall at work).....is he lapping at that pace, or has put a few laps at that time down and is otherwise lapping at 2'00+?...
he did 46 laps, that was the best time.  they didn't report any other numbers.

yes, you are definitely thinking too hard about this.  =)

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/rossi+concludes+test+at+brno
Like this is the racing, no?