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Ducati Cruiser

Started by heatherp, July 22, 2010, 02:31:01 AM

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heatherp

Nice bike - but NOT good looking.  [cheeky]

ducatiz

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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Betty

Quote from: ducatiz on July 22, 2010, 04:58:14 AM
REALLY??



Yeah sorry, I forgot ... we see those all the time down here [cheeky] ;D [laugh]

But still not really my thing, sorry.
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J5

i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

DUCMONROB

Looks like it is based on the Streetfighter. Personally it don't look too bad from the side angle. Anything is going to look better than a Guzzi!



Rob
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heatherp

I rest my case in the Ugly Guzzi debate.  There certainly are some shockers.  [cheeky]

Didn't mean to start a Guzzi bashing war.  I actually like Guzzis.  Just wish they'd make something pretty.

Spider

that is an awful looking bike....

however I do believe it represents something more sinister, by the massive width of that rear tyre this may represent the first time Ducati has deliberately chosen to effect the riding efficiency of a bike in a negative way. A frickin 220 ish tyre on the back can no way be justified, it is function lost for fashion gain....and that is a intrinsic quality of Ducati in my eyes and a very sad day for the brand.

I also have to apologise for all the Harley-MV Augusta jokes I mad. The laugh is on me! :(

ducatiz

i thought ozzies loved a wide-tyre drag bike ???

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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

heatherp

Originally imported from the USA for a minority group.

ducatiz

Quote from: heatherp on July 23, 2010, 03:48:34 AM
Originally imported from the USA for a minority group.

custom built on request!  :D
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Betty

Quote from: Spider on July 23, 2010, 02:14:22 AM
however I do believe it represents something more sinister, by the massive width of that rear tyre this may represent the first time Ducati has deliberately chosen to effect the riding efficiency of a bike in a negative way. A frickin 220 ish tyre on the back can no way be justified, it is function lost for fashion gain....and that is a intrinsic quality of Ducati in my eyes and a very sad day for the brand.

Seriously? You think this is the first time of form over function? Its just a matter of relativity.

If you are entering a new area of the market you have to at least meet the minimum 'standards' of that market ... I know nothing about this particular segment of the market but would guess a large section rear tyre is de rigueur (and in typing that I realised if I knew an Italian translation for that I should use it). Do I need a 180 rear section on my Monster? No. Do I need 190 on the 999? Not even close (in fact a common performance mod I have read is reducing the rear tyre section). So it is nothing new.

But a point I would like to raise again is my discussion with Joe Charity about the Streetfighter. He could not understand why Ducati would purposely de-tune the 1098 engine or why they would choose an exhaust design that would not allow you to ride with your toes on the pegs. My view was that they had probably nailed the market they were looking to enter/create/lead/inspire:
. massive although mostly theoretical power
. relatively comfortable ride position
. all the trick bits you would expect (brakes & suspension kinda thing)
. something not entirely impractical for ducking down to the cafe for a pose
. BOAST-ABILITY
I don't know how successful they have been but had it not been for the economy turning nasty I think they would have sold a lot more (and perhaps this MegaSportsCruiserThingy would have been deemed unnecessary).

Your comment seems a bit like saying 'Ducati have never installed lesser parts or compromised on design to save a few bucks'.
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suzyj

I think you only have to look as far as Triumph to see how profitable cruiser bikes can be for a company.  There are plenty of cashed-up boomers around who want something "unique" that they can ride up to PitS and brag about.  Most of the people buying these bikes are pretty poor motorcyclists, so despite the big numbers, they really want something that's heavily detuned.


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J5

Quote from: Spider on July 23, 2010, 02:14:22 AM
that is an awful looking bike....

however I do believe it represents something more sinister, by the massive width of that rear tyre this may represent the first time Ducati has deliberately chosen to effect the riding efficiency of a bike in a negative way. A frickin 220 ish tyre on the back can no way be justified, it is function lost for fashion gain....and that is a intrinsic quality of Ducati in my eyes and a very sad day for the brand.

I also have to apologise for all the Harley-MV Augusta jokes I mad. The laugh is on me! :(

and if you look at the rocket III that came out with the 240 odd tyre and now has the option of the 180 rear for those that actually want to ride around corners ;)

i dont care if you have been a mechanic for 10 years doing something for a long time does not make you good at it, take my gf for an example shes been walking for 28 years and still manages to fall over all the time.

heatherp

Quote from: suzyj on July 23, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
I think you only have to look as far as Triumph to see how profitable cruiser bikes can be for a company.  There are plenty of cashed-up boomers around who want something "unique" that they can ride up to PitS and brag about.  Most of the people buying these bikes are pretty poor motorcyclists, so despite the big numbers, they really want something that's heavily detuned.


I always wondered why my Brother bought a Rocket III. Thanks for clearing that up Suzy.   [thumbsup] [laugh]

(Should I even be admitting I have a brother who owns one??)

Spider

there is a difference between NOT installing the best bits so that your range offerings are seperated (why did the S2r get the s treatment...only got it when the 4v left the stable)....and doing what they've done...there's working towards category/price points and then there is deliberately impacting ride quality.