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Budget levers....what do you think??

Started by loopsrider, July 25, 2010, 10:09:12 AM

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Howie

Quote from: humorless dp on September 28, 2010, 04:54:01 PM
If you've ever ridden off with the stand down...

you'd appreciate the suicide stand as much as I do. ;)

Ah, but I have the improved run in neutral only with the sidestand down model, with the run in neutral sidestand up, stall when you put it gear mod  ;D

speedknot

I forgot to mention that the adjustment on these levers are fantastic.  It brings the clutch lever closer to the grip so I'm not grabbing it with my fingertips.  I'm also able to adjust the brake grab to a more desirable level.  In terms of control, this is a huge improvement for me.  Just placed a nice order with CA Cycleworks for a whole new chain/sprocket set up.  This bike is a money pit, in a good way. ;)
2001 Duc M750, Harley Forty-Eight, 1976 Honda CB400F-SS, 1975 CB360T

speedknot

Quote from: howie on September 28, 2010, 07:25:30 PM
Ah, but I have the improved run in neutral only with the sidestand down model, with the run in neutral sidestand up, stall when you put it gear mod  ;D

Thats why I did the conversion.  Much better now.
2001 Duc M750, Harley Forty-Eight, 1976 Honda CB400F-SS, 1975 CB360T

muffinman

Woohoo, pictures.. thanks all

The $25 levers... they only have them available for the 695.. will they fit the 696?


speedknot

Quote from: muffinman on October 01, 2010, 02:47:43 PM
Woohoo, pictures.. thanks all
The $25 levers... they only have them available for the 695.. will they fit the 696?

Dont do the $25 4 position adjustable levers.  When I had them on my M750, the lowest setting(adjustment where the lever is closest to the grip) was what the stock levers distance is.  It sucked.  Go for the ones I posted the link for.
2001 Duc M750, Harley Forty-Eight, 1976 Honda CB400F-SS, 1975 CB360T

IAmTheWalrus

Does anyone who has these know if on the newer bikes with the clutch switch that the levers support that?

I definitely would want to still be able to start the bike in gear, with the clutch lever in, if I got a new set of levers.

Do the CRG and Pazzo levers both support this?  I've done some searching but information is pretty hard to come by.

And it does not sound like the freeplay is adjustable, but that isn't a big deal? 

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=40977.msg731947#msg731947 This post and the next one discuss the freeplay adjustment.  I know the stock ones have freeplay adjustment which is "locked out" with some plastic or glue from the factory.

So it sounds like freeplay I could live without, but the clutch switch is a must for me.

Thanks.

Mojo S2R

I know that the CRG and Pazzo's have the clutch safety switch tab if you order the correct levers.  Don't know FH but I would expect that these would also.

IAmTheWalrus

You are definitely right.  Looks like the older CRG levers do NOT have the switch tab, but the new CRG levers do.  All of the Pazzo levers have this tab (where appropriate for the model). I've confirmed this.

I'm trying to confirm it with the eBay seller by showing him this diagram: 



I asked him in text and he didn't understand my question, hopefully a picture will say 1000 words!

If anyone else with these levers on their bike knows the answer, I'd love to know.

speedknot

I'm assuming you are talking about the ones I got off ebay.  Look at the pics in this thread.  I have a 01 M750 and they dont have the extra tab, but my bike doesn't have the switch.  The levers I got support clutch and brake piston adjustments.  Good buy to boot. [thumbsup]
2001 Duc M750, Harley Forty-Eight, 1976 Honda CB400F-SS, 1975 CB360T

IAmTheWalrus

Thanks Speedknot, I did see that yours didn't have the tab, but then again you don't need it.  I was curious if someone else knew if the same manufacturer had the tabs for the newer bikes.

I did get a response back from racingteamhrc1 confirming that those levers (Shine Trust Company) do NOT have the tab. 

Still waiting to hear back from the guy Speedknot bought his levers from, but at this point I'm pretty skeptical.

So here's another question: Anybody modify their levers to work?  It doesn't seem impossible, just by a piece of aluminum and somehow attach that to the lever to create a little tab.  That switch doesn't take all that much to push so I'll bet it would work pretty well.


kopfjäger

The word Budget and Ducati don't compute.  :D
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Mojo S2R

Quote from: IAmTheWalrus on October 12, 2010, 11:31:58 PM
So here's another question: Anybody modify their levers to work?  It doesn't seem impossible, just by a piece of aluminum and somehow attach that to the lever to create a little tab.  That switch doesn't take all that much to push so I'll bet it would work pretty well.

When the CRGs first came out they didn't have that tab.  Someone designed an add-on tab and I believe that Monsterparts still carries them though they are not shown on the site.  I had gotten a set of the cheap adjustable controls from Monsterparts that also don't have the tab and tried one of those add-on tabs but it didn't work with those controls.  I ended up just using a tie strap to keep the switch engaged permanently and then cut the strap off when I got the Pazzos with no ill effects.  You just have to be vigilant to not start it in gear if you use the tie strap workaround as it effectively bypasses the safety switch.

TAftonomos

On one of my 999's.  Fit is perfect, adjustment is great.

Hey, if you wanna spend $175 on a set of levers, be my guest.  These work perfect, feet just as good as CRG's or ASV's, and were a whole $30 shipped.  Cheap enough to get a spare set just in case.


Timmy Tucker


Which vendor did you order them from for $30? I want a set for my M750, but can't find them for less than $70-ish.



Quote from: TAftonomos on October 13, 2010, 03:03:45 PM
On one of my 999's.  Fit is perfect, adjustment is great.

Hey, if you wanna spend $175 on a set of levers, be my guest.  These work perfect, feet just as good as CRG's or ASV's, and were a whole $30 shipped.  Cheap enough to get a spare set just in case.


1999 M750 - "Piggy"
2007 S4RS

IAmTheWalrus

#104
So, I did get a reply email from the vendor that Speedknot purchased from, the MLabel vendor (mlabel.parts) on eBay:

Hi,

Thanks for your interested our item.
Yes! This item must be fit your bike model & year.
Also, this item have clutch switch tab.
Please take note.

Thanks!

So, sounds like if you have a bike that needs the tab, these levers will have it.  I'd love to still get a first hand confirmation, but this is encouraging.

Also, another question for anyone who might know: I was told by a vendor that the Pazzo levers have the clutch switch tab on the perch, not the lever.  Wouldn't that defeat the purpose, if that means the lever is depressed all the time?  I'd think the tab would have to be on the lever, as it is on the original Brembos.  But possibly the perch moves as well?  I just have not seen these levers in action to fully understand how they work by looking at pictures of them.