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Best high flow filter for 696/796/1100

Started by Veloce-Fino, August 11, 2010, 11:33:48 AM

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theprocess

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on August 20, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
... Same as buying a $1300 DP ecu from Ducati.

Arent the stainless termis (cans, ecu and air filter) about $1,000?   $1300 for just the ecu doesnt make any sense.

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: theprocess on September 13, 2010, 08:12:55 AM
Arent the stainless termis (cans, ecu and air filter) about $1,000?   $1300 for just the ecu doesnt make any sense.

This is intentional. Ducati prices the DP ECU so outrageously high that no one would ever buy it solo. Instead, everyone buys it with the Termi kit. Ducati must have some sort of agreement with Termignoni which is why these two items are sold together. For those who dislike the look of termi's it's much tougher to get access to a DP ecu.

The recent ability to re-flash the siemens ecu has made it much easier though. However there are some issues still with the software.
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speedknot

Quote from: DucNaked on August 21, 2010, 05:45:48 AM
So does anyone have any recomendations on the best high flow filter. [laugh] [laugh]

Not sure if this thread is still about getting a filter but I'll chime in here.  The K&N is a fine choice.  You can get them anywhere, you know the quality is great, and they cost around $60.   
2001 Duc M750, Harley Forty-Eight, 1976 Honda CB400F-SS, 1975 CB360T

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: speedknot on September 13, 2010, 11:17:09 AM
Not sure if this thread is still about getting a filter but I'll chime in here.  The K&N is a fine choice.  You can get them anywhere, you know the quality is great, and they cost around $60.   

So I'm easily distracted...


I wish I could know for sure if there was a difference in flow between say the standard K&N and MWR


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speedknot

Don't beat yourself up over it.  I'm sure they're both good filters. 
2001 Duc M750, Harley Forty-Eight, 1976 Honda CB400F-SS, 1975 CB360T

Veloce-Fino

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Quote from: speedknot on September 13, 2010, 11:55:15 AM
Don't beat yourself up over it.  I'm sure they're both good filters.  

I agree but one is $115 (mwr) the other is $60

So the age old question, more money = better product?????


*updated first post in an attempt to salvage this thread.
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mattc7

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on September 13, 2010, 12:07:49 PM
I agree but one is $145 (mwr) the other is $60

So the age old question, more money = better product?????


*updated first post in an attempt to salvage this thread.

From what i've heard of MWR, they seem to be a great company, that puts alot of time, and energy into their designs. The list of people using their filters is very large too.  I'ld suggest discussing it with Desmoworks, or MWR themselves. 

theprocess

K&N once I need to replace my DP filter.  No idea if airflow will be better or worse.  K&N based on reputation and price.

hcomp

I got a free spare ECU so I am pretty sure I am going to do a remap.  But that Rexxer reflash unit is bad ass!
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Link

Just thought I'd post up this link cause it's for the K&N filter that fits the 696 for $42.00. I just got mine the other day and saved about $25.00

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: Link on September 28, 2010, 04:33:50 PM
Just thought I'd post up this link cause it's for the K&N filter that fits the 696 for $42.00. I just got mine the other day and saved about $25.00

Link, you didn't post the link. THE IRONY!
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Link

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on September 28, 2010, 05:25:47 PM
Link, you didn't post the link. THE IRONY!

  http://www.autopartsdealer.com/kn_powersports_performance_air_filters_du_6908-p59831-p.html

Appropriately Link was hung on me in reference to the "missing link" between apes & humans which in this case the irony seems very well placed ! 

ChrisH

This topic went way ot, and I'm wanting to verify some of that ot info....bringing back from the dead!

I have the cash to get my 696 ecu reflashed. I'm wondering if I get the dp reflash with o2 sensors removed - will the bike run ok without having a power commander? Or, would I be better served just getting the standard dp reflash and leave the stock o2 sensors enabled? I'm wanting to order my slipons, reflash, and filter tonight or tomorrow.

Thank in advance for any help.
2010 Monster 696
2005 Honda Ruckus
1985 Honda Spree
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Veloce-Fino

Contact Anthony at desmoworks.

He has multiple flashes and if you tell him your exact setup he will use the appropriate flash for your needs.

If you are just doing exhaust/filter a PCV is unnecessary.

I chose to get the increased rpm limit and delete the O2 sensors along with the new map for my setup that should hopefully solve my lean issue.

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mattc7

Quote from: ChrisH on March 21, 2011, 02:10:23 PM
This topic went way ot, and I'm wanting to verify some of that ot info....bringing back from the dead!

I have the cash to get my 696 ecu reflashed. I'm wondering if I get the dp reflash with o2 sensors removed - will the bike run ok without having a power commander? Or, would I be better served just getting the standard dp reflash and leave the stock o2 sensors enabled? I'm wanting to order my slipons, reflash, and filter tonight or tomorrow.

Thank in advance for any help.

I have had the rexxer map with and without O2 sensors, both with raised rev limits, and will say that the map that forgoes the sensors is easier starting, and alittle livelier down low.   I have found no ill effect, and as of yet have not pcv'd it.

My personal feeling is, if you're already going to reflash, why not get rid of the O2 sensors.  it saves a few ounces, and lets the bike fuel properly, instead of thinking it should!

Also, if you decide to do something more down the line, PCV is a viable option, whereas with the O2 in place, you can only half-tune with it