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MV Agusta F3: Italy’s 675 - First official pics

Started by Travman, October 31, 2010, 06:25:53 PM

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ducatiz

Quote from: matt922 on October 31, 2010, 08:03:17 PM
From reading another article, MV is depending on this bike to bring the name out and expand their market.   They intend to sell ~10k units in the first year of production, but I wonder if they even have the dealer network to sell that many.

Seems as if the price will be on par with the rest of the european supersports too

typical Castiglioni bullshitting.   they haven't sold 10k units of motorcycles in their lifetimes, except when they owned Ducati. 
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Travman

Quote from: ducatiz on November 01, 2010, 06:23:12 AM
typical Castiglioni bullshitting.   they haven't sold 10k units of motorcycles in their lifetimes, except when they owned Ducati. 
You are right. I love this bike so far and i have a dealer in town.  However, even if this new bike is significantly lighter, more powerful and the same price as competitors like Ducati & Triumph it wouldn't sell 1,000 units.  I guess the Castiglioni's have to be optimistic to attract investors and potential dealer.

sbrguy

Quote from: Travman on November 01, 2010, 06:51:25 AM
You are right. I love this bike so far and i have a dealer in town.  However, even if this new bike is significantly lighter, more powerful and the same price as competitors like Ducati & Triumph it wouldn't sell 1,000 units.  I guess the Castiglioni's have to be optimistic to attract investors and potential dealer.

i think the main thing is dealers and also pricing and performace.  if like you say the bike is lighter but just as powerful and same price as as the big 3 and they can market the italian flair a bit then i see it selling a ton of bikes way more than 1000, maybe not 10k in the first year but somewhere close to 1/2 way there in a year.

ducatiz

the same 800 people who bought an F4 will look at this.  (in the USA).

but people outside of the major cities in the USA will look and move on to a more common brand, with a dealer network.

Look at us:  Ducati is the biggest italian seller in the USA and we have dealer problems.  (Naw, Dooocahti ain't replacing tanks unless theyz leakin'.. stop readin' on that there innnernet!)
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El Matador

Quote from: ducatiz on November 01, 2010, 06:59:21 AM
the same 800 people who bought an F4 will look at this.  (in the USA).

but people outside of the major cities in the USA will look and move on to a more common brand, with a dealer network.

Look at us:  Ducati is the biggest italian seller in the USA and we have dealer problems.  (Naw, Dooocahti ain't replacing tanks unless theyz leakin'.. stop readin' on that there innnernet!)

I'm pretty interested in it. Sub 10k price tag makes it all the more appealing.    [thumbsup]

Travman

Quote from: sbrguy on November 01, 2010, 06:54:27 AM
i think the main thing is dealers and also pricing and performace.  if like you say the bike is lighter but just as powerful and same price as as the big 3 and they can market the italian flair a bit then i see it selling a ton of bikes way more than 1000, maybe not 10k in the first year but somewhere close to 1/2 way there in a year.
I bet MV didn't sell 50 bikes in the U.S. last year. In their best year this century they didn't sell more than a couple of hundred. MV sells a fraction of what Guzzi sells, which is a fraction of what Ducati sells. They could sell more someday, but it will take a couple years of building.

sbrguy

i have to agree with you there its probalby mainly because mv is still in the "ferrari" way of thinking of selling nothing but exclusive high priced bikes, afterallwhen their naked "entry level" bike is 15k to start that is not going to sell many.

wasn't ducati like that years ago until they realized they had to put out a cheaper entry point bike to basically make all their money and then they can still make their super exclusive bike, ie. 1098r, d16. 

doesn't ducati make all its money on the lower priced monster mainly the 696? 

i can see mv doing something like this by making the f3 and a similar brutale and then they would finally have a few entry point bikes to stand on to keep the compnay from going bankrupt again.

matt922

Quote from: ducatiz on November 01, 2010, 06:59:21 AM
the same 800 people who bought an F4 will look at this.  (in the USA).

but people outside of the major cities in the USA will look and move on to a more common brand, with a dealer network.
Actually, i was reading an MV forum post about the F3, and seemed like half the F4 owners were pregnant doging because they looked practically identical.

If this bike is as small as they are bragging about and has a short ride height(~31.5ish inches), i may not have a choice come 2012 when the bike comes out  [moto]

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: El Matador on November 01, 2010, 07:10:57 AM
I'm pretty interested in it. Sub 10k price tag makes it all the more appealing.    [thumbsup]

This and the fact that it is more rare than a Ducati makes me want it.
Is this thing on?

ducatiz

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on November 01, 2010, 09:44:59 AM
This and the fact that it is more rare than a Ducati makes me want it.

a picture of me taking a dump is rare, want one?
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Veloce-Fino

Quote from: ducatiz on November 01, 2010, 10:00:27 AM
a picture of me taking a dump is rare, want one?

I have always wanted a photo of you taking a dump, but have been too scared to ask.  :-*
Is this thing on?

ducatiz

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on November 01, 2010, 10:52:56 AM
I have always wanted a photo of you taking a dump, but have been too scared to ask.  :-*

shoot me your email.  this one's on me.
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ducatiz

Not sure if anyone posted this:

Quote“The pricing is already decided. The price will be â,¬11,500, which is in direct competition with the rivals [the 128bhp Triumph Daytona 675 retails for â,¬11,590 in Italy]. There is a small premium because an MV is a rich bike, but with all the competition between â,¬10,500 and â,¬11,200, we’re not far above. It is a really competitive price for an MV.”

I assume that's with VAT included.  But that doesn't translate into what they'd sell it in the USA for.

I imagine in the 10-11k range.
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