Danmoto exhaust

[ChrisH]

All I will add to the conversation is that I agree with buying higher end things that will last, I mean I did buy a Ducati. That said, I'd personally feel like a fool spending $1k on a slip on exhaust, I mean it's way less material then a car exhaust and it's hundreds more then I have paid for full cat back car exhausts. In addition to the quality of the machine itself I take into consideration the value that I put on specific accessories, and in the case of a slip on exhaust that performance wise doesn't really do much except drop weight so I'd rather spend the $200 and in fact I am very happy with my purchase. I get compliments all the time, even from other Ducati owners.....

To each their own. We all have our own perceptions and experiences so buy what you like.

[ducatiz]

It has nothing to do with anti-Chinese. It's anti-cheap. I don't care where they are made (hence my "even QD" since it's Italian but doesn't feel or look like Termi, Arrow, or Zard).

When you say "anti cheap" just bear in mind Toyota's history.. or Honda's.. Or Ducati's for that matter. 

Look at some of the reviews in old bike mags.  Ducati QA was shit.  My friends in Italy laugh because Ducatis used to be called "the fast one with the trail of parts". 

Thank God they got their QA up to part, but the fact is, everyone starts out doing cheap.

[ManaloEA]

edit: now with 100% more photos

Looks very nice. Seems that you can get to the seat lock without burning your hand.

[$Lindz$]

When you say "anti cheap" just bear in mind Toyota's history.. or Honda's.. Or Ducati's for that matter. 

Look at some of the reviews in old bike mags.  Ducati QA was shit.  My friends in Italy laugh because Ducatis used to be called "the fast one with the trail of parts". 

Thank God they got their QA up to part, but the fact is, everyone starts out doing cheap.

Agree to an extent. I very much know Honda's history as I used to work for them. Their history was built on innovation and forward-thinking engineers who were out-smarting the current climate of motor vehicles (bikes and cars). It's a VERY far cry from the situation Honda is currently in. At least their bikes are still somewhat true to their values. Cars... hah. Well, I'll just say they are chasing Toyota's business model in the currunt day and aren't following their own history and leave it at that.

[Desert Dust]

You may say something like "it doesn't bother me" or "for the price I paid...". That is the crux of my argument, really. I prefer products where those statements don't have to be made.

I haven't heard anybody say, "Gee, I wish I'd spent $1000.00 more for the Arrows," either. 

[$Lindz$]

@Javamoose (would be a big quote), I mostly agree with you.

It's nice that some of the detailing is thought-out and nicely executed. Some of it (like the fasteners) are not. I was being a bit sarcastic by calling it galvanized, and I do see your point when it comes to a slip-on exhaust providing little more than a visual enhancement and a slight weight loss. But then slip-ons are the ultimate dichotomy on Ducatis. It's purely "jewelry". People choose accordingly; from diamonds to the little plastic rings in the supermarket coin machines.

It's part of the reason I don't like slip-ons. At least with the full system you are getting a decent power increase (and more of a weight savings too).

Anyways... sorry to pick nits or ruffle feathers. In the end everyone here is riding a moto so it's a lot better than the alternative...

[$Lindz$]

You may say something like "it doesn't bother me" or "for the price I paid...". That is the crux of my argument, really. I prefer products where those statements don't have to be made.

I haven't heard anybody say, "Gee, I wish I'd spent $1000.00 more for the Arrows," either. 

Nor have I heard anyone with an Arrow say "Gee, I wish I'd spent $800 less and gotten that!"

I'm curious, how many people buying Danmoto have seen Arrows and Termis up-close and had the chance to work with them, take them apart, install them, etc.? We're talking about top-notch craftsmanship using titanium, aluminum, pre-preg "dry carbon", stainless (as a last resort) with double-slip fittings and good design that takes into account balanced exhaust tuning, aesthetics and amazing fit-and-finish.


I'll gladly pay for that, regardless of the brand's name.

[Desert Dust]

Nor have I heard anyone with an Arrow say "Gee, I wish I'd spent $800 less and gotten that!"

I'm curious, how many people buying Danmoto have seen Arrows and Termis up-close and had the chance to work with them, take them apart, install them, etc.? We're talking about top-notch craftsmanship using titanium, aluminum, pre-preg "dry carbon", stainless (as a last resort) with double-slip fittings and good design that takes into account balanced exhaust tuning, aesthetics and amazing fit-and-finish.


I'll gladly pay for that, regardless of the brand's name.

Many of us are saying we're glad we bought Danmoto instead of Arrows or Termis. I've had numerous opportunities to buy Arrows or Termis, but I didn't. Actions speak louder than words. Yes, I've seen Arrows and Termis up close and in person, and you are right about the quality, etc. Have you seen Danmotos other than a picture? Now I still have $800.00 to take my family to Vegas. Personally, I'm happy for the people who are happy with how they spent their money, regardless of what they chose to buy with their money.

[$Lindz$]

I have seen these things up close. I'm not some internet troll looking at pictures.

It's great that you saved money and are able to take a trip with your family. As I alluded to earlier that's probably the best rationale for buying these, as we've come to agree that for most of us motorcycles are little more than toys. (It happens to be my only vehicle at the moment, but I still think of it as a toy sometimes!).

I'm all for your purchase as long as you're happy. I'm just playing devil's advocate and offering up my reasons as to why someone would buy Termi or Arrows or Zard, etc.

[ducatiz]

Nor have I heard anyone with an Arrow say "Gee, I wish I'd spent $800 less and gotten that!"

I'm curious, how many people buying Danmoto have seen Arrows and Termis up-close and had the chance to work with them, take them apart, install them, etc.? We're talking about top-notch craftsmanship using titanium, aluminum, pre-preg "dry carbon", stainless (as a last resort) with double-slip fittings and good design that takes into account balanced exhaust tuning, aesthetics and amazing fit-and-finish.


I'll gladly pay for that, regardless of the brand's name.

And you'll be appropriately crying when you lowside the bike and mangle one of the cans..  :-)

[Desert Dust]

And you'll be appropriately crying when you lowside the bike and mangle one of the cans..  :-)

But a lowside is better than a highside, nonetheless. I highsided once on the dirt at about 50 mph and ended up in the hospital. Cost me more than four sets of termis.   

[$Lindz$]

So now the rationale is that everyone will crash their bike?

I already said earlier in this discussion that I understand using these for a track bike since you're more likely to wad it and who cares about longevity or design (assuming its your hobby, not a race bike/team).

[Desert Dust]

So now the rationale is that everyone will crash their bike?

I already said earlier in this discussion that I understand using these for a track bike since you're more likely to wad it and who cares about longevity or design (assuming its your hobby, not a race bike/team).

You never know how fast you can go until you crash

[Ohm3d]

wow- beating a dead horse

[slauster]

Well, guys this has been entertaining.   

@ Desert Dust...is there any way you can post a video for us? Just curious how they sound on the s2r 1000. 
Did you say you were going to buy a mid-pipe as well?