KTM 690 Enduro

[Monsterlover]

[Slide Panda]

Resurrection - but since this is about the KTM 690 Enduro... no need for a new thread.

Buddy sent me a listing for a nice looking 2008. Well it seems nice but I don't know so much about the orange. So if anyone's more educated, please illuminate me.

The listing:

"2008 KTM 690 Enduro - $6800- with Renazco seat $6500- without Renazco seat

9129 Miles

Accessories:
Renazco Seat
Leo Vince pipe w/akro map
KTM Twins fuel filler setup
KTM Tail bag w/bracket
Small KTM tool bag for dual sports etc.
Underground machine risers w/scotts damper adaptor (I am using the damper on another bike)
Enduro Engineering hand guards
KTM Foam filter (Also including the stock paper filter)
Dunlop D606 front & D908 Rear tires with plenty of tread left
Radiator guards
Sicass Racing LED rear signals
Flat Land engine guard / bash plate
Touratech; Kick stand foot, rear brake guard, and rear rotor guard
14 tooth counter sprocket (and stock 15)
KTM sport windshield

Also comes with:
Fully bound shop manual
2 sets of extra oil filters
1 new spark plug
Original "brief case" and all manuals
Under seat gas tank I bought on a whim, but never installed
Extra new fuel pump, another item I bought on a whim because it was a deal
Extra Teraflex rear tire with low mileage

I also have a set of supermoto wheels & tires that transform this bike into a road burner for an extra $500- (the bike is really fun with these on the road!) takes about 45 mins to put them on, 20 mins to change back.......I have the cut fork protectors & everything for them. Tires have 90% tread left."

[The Mad King Pepe']

Resurrection - but since this is about the KTM 690 Enduro... no need for a new thread.

Do get it with the Renazco seat, your rear end will thank you!

There's a lot of good material to read on ADVRider's Thumper section. There's also the Orange Crush section for KTM Twins and Parallel Universe for BMW Twins. Depending on what you want to do with the bike a single might be better than a twin (more power, but heavier)... And last but not least, the Classifieds section will give you an idea of what price bikes tend to go for.

The good thing about KTM bikes is that they tend to come out of the factory already properly setup, especially when it comes to the suspension. The main negative is that they tend to be more maintenance intensive compared to the equivalent Japanese bikes.

I have a 2006 BMW F650 GS (single cylinder) that I've been enjoying. It's more touristic and street oriented than the KTM (comfortable seat, ABS, windscreen and smaller 19" front wheel), and near perfect for commuting in DC.   I also have fun on dirt/gravel roads but it's not as good off road as the KTM (I would need better forks, a 21" front wheel and at least 50/50 on/off road tires).

I don't know if the SuMo tires/wheels are worth it. I'm pretty happy with my Metzler Tourance (90/10 on/off road tires), and could only push further with better (firmer) suspension, so fitting SuMo tires would only emphasize these limits.

Price wise, it's really up to you. For what it's worth, I got my GS for $4500
- similar bike in Arkansas for 6K http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740580
- BMW F650 GS (TWIN) 6K in NC http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=744825

And you can also look at a Suzuki DR650, DRZ400, Kawasaki KLR 650, Honda X-whatever, Husqvarna, etc....

[Slide Panda]

I'm still dipping my toe and trying to figure out what's what. This might be more pipe dream than anything... but what the hell, electrons are cheap.

Needs:
Road capable - pref pretty good on the roads. I don't, at present, have the capability to transport a pure offroader, nor do I see myself going all dirt. I'd like something I could potentially ride to some fire roads etc explore a bit and ride home. Have fun knock around SuMo a bit in the twists.

To that end I could see a road legal SuMo as a viable option.

Wants:
Durable. It's assumed that bikes like this will be able to take a hit - but are any known to be stronger in this field than others?
Lighter - I just don't feel like wrasslin' a pig. I hear the Hondas are a bit beefy...

[The Mad King Pepe']

here's a few local bikes I found, have fun! 

- 1997 BMW F650 - $2650 (Richmond) :: http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/2705359047.html
- 2000 BMW F650 - $3400 (NW DC) :: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/mcy/2735481644.html
- 2006 BMW F650GS Only 5300 Miles! - $5600 (Glen Allen) :: http://richmond.craigslist.org/mcy/2721011606.html
- 2009 G650GS BMW Hardly Used - $7100 (McLean VA) :: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2740741219.html

- 2008 kawasaki klr 650 - $3500 (greenbackville, va) :: http://easternshore.craigslist.org/mcy/2699871725.html
- 2009 KLR 650 - $3500 (WOODBRIDGE) :: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2736432405.html

- 2006 suzuki dr z 400s super clean - $3200 (springfield ) :: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2734621996.html
- Suzuki DR650 2007 Dual Sport - $3500 (Bel Air) :: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/mcy/2742961630.html

[lethe]

I love my SMC 625 although I probably will get some more off road specific tires for when I do the hard core trails. It will do them now but it's not pleased with the idea.
With the 690 they added a much needed counter balancer I believe so my one minor complaint with mine would be addressed.
My tank range kinda sucks but the silly grin this thing evokes after traversing roads that are truly in terrible shape or are just a step above being a trail at insane velocities more than makes up for it. 
You know you NEED it. 

[Slide Panda]

Why do I talk to you guys... It's like asking a bunch of junkies if another bump is a good idea 

[lethe]

Why do I talk to you guys... It's like asking a bunch of junkies if another bump is a good idea 

it really is the perfect addition to do the type of roads that the Monster isn't happy exploring

[Slide Panda]

With the 690 they added a much needed counter balancer I believe so my one minor complaint with mine would be addressed.
My tank range kinda sucks but the silly grin this thing evokes after traversing roads that are truly in terrible shape or are just a step above being a trail at insane velocities more than makes up for it. 
You know you NEED it. 

Did the 625 have a bit of the HD wobble?

Taht one I posted has a set of 17" rims for road. What's dropping the from wheel size going to do in terms of the feel? I know the implications on the geometry - just trying to get a qualitative description from someone who might have played that swapping game.

[lethe]

Did the 625 have a bit of the HD wobble?

Taht one I posted has a set of 17" rims for road. What's dropping the from wheel size going to do in terms of the feel? I know the implications on the geometry - just trying to get a qualitative description from someone who might have played that swapping game.

I get a little head shake at 80 mph that clears up around 90.
I only have the 17"s so I can't compare what another size would feel like in comparison
On pavement the thing feels extremely capable, dirt roads and mild trails it's great too. I'm currently running the Pirelli MT 60Rs.
I love that it can hit a pothole midcorner and not care. 

[The Mad King Pepe']

it really is the perfect addition to do the type of roads that the Monster isn't happy exploring

Gone down a few dirt/gravel roads with my Monster and all it needed was more suspension travel and a less squrrelly front end!

Did the 625 have a bit of the HD wobble?

Taht one I posted has a set of 17" rims for road. What's dropping the from wheel size going to do in terms of the feel? I know the implications on the geometry - just trying to get a qualitative description from someone who might have played that swapping game.

A 19" front could take care of that for you, more DS tire choices and better sizes (100/90 vs 120/70), wider steering angle. With a 90/10 DS tire you loose very little grip on tarmac but it handles much better off road than a street tire. The only reason to go with a 17" front is if you want a proper sumo setup...

[lethe]

Gone down a few dirt/gravel roads with my Monster and all it needed was more suspension travel and a less squrrelly front end!

There are some roads around here that are literally trails
One I wandered onto by mistake with the Monster had me dropping into first gear with my feet occasionally down and crawling up and over the mountain, too stubborn to turn back
That was the first place i went to when I got the KTM.
Whole different story, I blasted up and over that pregnant dog 40-50 mph 

Still plan on getting a 2nd set of rims and tires for pure hard core off roading though, these tires while great on pavement and a dirt road are worthless in mud

[The Mad King Pepe']

Still plan on getting a 2nd set of rims and tires for pure hard core off roading though, these tires while great on pavement and a dirt road are worthless in mud

Same thing with my Tourance and pretty much any other DS tire. I've laid down my GS twice now and both times it was in the mud, tho the first time I was just set on attacking old logs on the side of the road...  

I plan to try the Heidenau K60 for my next set of tires, they seem to be better in the dirt without loosing much grip/wear on road... we'll see.


@Ian if you're comparing bikes, keep in mind one plus for the F650 GS is the mileage it gets: 60+ MPG And that's pretty much wherever I'm going.

[Monsterlover]

Resurrection - but since this is about the KTM 690 Enduro... no need for a new thread.

Buddy sent me a listing for a nice looking 2008. Well it seems nice but I don't know so much about the orange. So if anyone's more educated, please illuminate me.

The listing:

"2008 KTM 690 Enduro - $6800- with Renazco seat $6500- without Renazco seat

9129 Miles

Accessories:
Renazco Seat
Leo Vince pipe w/akro map
KTM Twins fuel filler setup
KTM Tail bag w/bracket
Small KTM tool bag for dual sports etc.
Underground machine risers w/scotts damper adaptor (I am using the damper on another bike)
Enduro Engineering hand guards
KTM Foam filter (Also including the stock paper filter)
Dunlop D606 front & D908 Rear tires with plenty of tread left
Radiator guards
Sicass Racing LED rear signals
Flat Land engine guard / bash plate
Touratech; Kick stand foot, rear brake guard, and rear rotor guard
14 tooth counter sprocket (and stock 15)
KTM sport windshield

Also comes with:
Fully bound shop manual
2 sets of extra oil filters
1 new spark plug
Original "brief case" and all manuals
Under seat gas tank I bought on a whim, but never installed
Extra new fuel pump, another item I bought on a whim because it was a deal
Extra Teraflex rear tire with low mileage

I also have a set of supermoto wheels & tires that transform this bike into a road burner for an extra $500- (the bike is really fun with these on the road!) takes about 45 mins to put them on, 20 mins to change back.......I have the cut fork protectors & everything for them. Tires have 90% tread left."

Not much time to type but GET THIS BIKE!

PM Dan The Man. He rode the street version of the 690 E 15000 miles around the US and canada with zero issues.

They're solid, reliable and fun bikes!

[stopintime]

Lots of fun 

Sumpstar Jenzino