Monster 1000 Engine compatibility

UberRacing · February 01, 2011, 06:58:14 PM

Does anyone know if a 2005(6) S2R1000 (DS1000) motor will fit in a 2005 Monster 1000S? I'm not sure since the M1000 is the dual sided swingarm and the S2R1000 is SSSA.

Thanks!

zooom · February 02, 2011, 06:31:27 AM

I think(?) that the casing for the swingarm mounting is different due that difference...but someone like Duck-Stew or otherwise technically minded can answer for sure.

Travman · February 02, 2011, 06:49:27 AM

I'm thinking it is the same despite the different swingarms. I think we've seen a project where a guy put a S2R1000 swingarm on dual sided swingarm Monster. That would indicate compatability. However, I don't really know. Someone with more technical knowledge will come along and post soon.

671M900 · February 02, 2011, 08:14:11 PM

I think the swingarm shouldn't matter. You can put s*r rearsets on a dss monster if you have the pivot, indicating they have the same dimensions. The swinger is a bit different I think due to the top mount. The m620/695 I saw with a sss I think had to invert or rotate the shock a little to get it to fit.

UberRacing · February 04, 2011, 04:07:32 PM

ok thanks. Seems worth a shot but I was hoping someone may have the
measurements (inside the swingarm verses width of the motor mounting point) before I would
commit to buying. I could also check with a dealer mechanic....

Travman · February 04, 2011, 04:13:44 PM

You could try derbyed the same question in the Tech section. You should get a more definite answer there.

Duck-Stew · February 08, 2011, 05:03:18 AM

Yes. Both the '05 M1000S and the '06-'08 S2R1000 have the wide swingarm pivots. I have done this swap a few times.

UberRacing · February 08, 2011, 03:23:28 PM

very cool thanks for the confirmation!

krista · February 10, 2011, 12:49:19 AM

Actually, the telling factor is whether the frame extends down to the swingarm pivot.

If the swingarm pivots without a frame, it's the "wider" case with the swingarm pivot bearings in it. Like the S2R family.

If the swingarm is "supported" by the frame it has the 916 type swingarm pivot. Like a multistrada.

Blue · February 10, 2011, 08:10:39 AM

Quote from: chris on February 10, 2011, 12:49:19 AM
Actually, the telling factor is whether the frame extends down to the swingarm pivot.

If the swingarm pivots without a frame, it's the "wider" case with the swingarm pivot bearings in it. Like the S2R family.

If the swingarm is "supported" by the frame it has the 916 type swingarm pivot. Like a multistrada.

So, one could put a M1100 engine in a hooped framed M900, should they be so inclined. Correct?

krista · February 10, 2011, 10:42:07 AM

Yup!

koko64 · February 10, 2011, 02:39:26 PM

There's a long term plan; 1100 DS, DP cams, thin head gasket, split FCR 41s, ignitech, 100 hp

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Speeddog · February 10, 2011, 03:35:47 PM

Quote from: Blue on February 10, 2011, 08:10:39 AM
So, one could put a M1100 engine in a hooped framed M900, should they be so inclined. Correct?

Your M900 exhaust won't fit, the throttle bodies will fight with a frame crossmember, etc.

Not what I'd call a bolt-up, but definitely feasible.

Duck-Stew · February 10, 2011, 03:52:42 PM

Also, all Ducati motors from 2001 & up have 12mm engine mounting bolts so you'll have to deal w/that on an earlier frame'd swap.

evoasis · February 11, 2011, 09:59:17 AM

The problem I experienced with my 620 with a 1000DS swap was the headers not matching at all...

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