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696 fork swap help

Started by Link, February 05, 2011, 09:34:27 AM

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Quote from: Raux on February 05, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
you need the sbk axle because of the forks. the stock wheel with fit it though. the two axle spacers go on either side of the wheel.

yes you understand the fork length issue

TAft explained the rotors

the monster triples. are 50/54 so you need to bore the upper shim the lower
unless you get the ohlins they you need to bore both.




I finally got all the parts in hand, 848 forks re sprung & re valved, Galfer wave rotors & all the shims the top triple is out being bored should be in hand in a few days. But I'm not sure on the fork length & positioning. The 848 forks are aprx. 63mm longer. So I measured the stock fork while on the bike (no pressure on forks) from the bottom triple to the center of the axle which was 400mm. I used that dimension to install the new fork. Is that the correct way to maintain the bikes stock set up ?
Thanks

booger

You did it correctly. You should be around the stock geometry now. How much fork is protruding above the triple? Hopefully you have enough clearance for the bars and you can still get at the adjusters.
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Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 18, 2011, 04:45:52 PM
You did it correctly. You should be around the stock geometry now. How much fork is protruding above the triple? Hopefully you have enough clearance for the bars and you can still get at the adjusters.

Thanks, I haven't got the top triple back yet so I'm not sure on that. But I do have Rizoma 60mm bar risers so hopefully I'll have the clearance. Not sure but I think most others have used clip ons with this mod.

Raux

the risers should be enough for clearance IMO.

sounds like it's coming together nicely.  [thumbsup]

but pics or it didnt happen  [roll]

hadesducati848

so glad i stumbled on this thread. ive been thinking of doing this for a few weeks now. my plan is to get ohlins front and rear for my 848 and then getting the calipers, rim and rotors from a 10 or 1198. and all the left over parts will go on my 696... at least thats the idea.
it is so much easier to get forgiveness then it will ever be to get permission.

Link

Quote from: Raux on March 19, 2011, 12:33:06 AM
the risers should be enough for clearance IMO.

sounds like it's coming together nicely.  [thumbsup]

but pics or it didnt happen  [roll]


I hope so, you mentioned early on the forks were longer but like a dumb ass I didn't ask how much longer and assumed maybe 10-20mm not 63mm !

Pics will happen right after the 1st road test & [beer], I'm hoping for a very noticeable handling improvement over the stock forks.



Quote from: hadesducati848 on March 19, 2011, 01:44:11 AM
so glad i stumbled on this thread. ive been thinking of doing this for a few weeks now. my plan is to get ohlins front and rear for my 848 and then getting the calipers, rim and rotors from a 10 or 1198. and all the left over parts will go on my 696... at least thats the idea.

Are you using the 1098 rim for it's looks ? Otherwise it seems easier to keep the stock 696 wheel. Will the 848 rear shock mount up on the 696 ?

Raux

actually i have an 848 showa rear shock that i'm going to attempt to mount on the bike.
I know the spring is softer than the 696, so I hope my stock spring which I powdercoated black will fit the showa.
but i am worried about the external tank that is attached to the fork

hadesducati848

Quote from: Link on March 19, 2011, 07:29:04 AM

Are you using the 1098 rim for it's looks ? Otherwise it seems easier to keep the stock 696 wheel. Will the 848 rear shock mount up on the 696 ?

i was thinking the simplest way to do it would be to get the entire front end off a 1198s
something that already has the ohlins forks, triples, brakes, rotors, rim, and if it had the bars and reservoirs also that would be even better. i saw a set up like that a while back on ebay it was like 4 grand. but we will see what happens when my tax return comes in.
it is so much easier to get forgiveness then it will ever be to get permission.

Raux

the sbk triples are different than the monster triples.


hadesducati848

Quote from: Raux on March 19, 2011, 01:40:54 PM
the sbk triples are different than the monster triples.



im hope to up grade my 848 with 1198 goodies.
then upgrade my 696 with the leftover 848 stuff so the only headache should be getting the 848 triples on the monster. and ill let someone else figure out the details and just follow their lead 8-)
it is so much easier to get forgiveness then it will ever be to get permission.

Veloce-Fino

Lots of good info in here.

Raux, you're making me want to do this again.   :-\
Is this thing on?

DucatiTorrey

#26
agreed

im looking into woodcraft clip ons regardless, but, i dont know if i should get a speedymoto triple now, or wait till i maybe eventually afford forks.

maybe run the clip ons with a pc'd stock triple for the summer, then upgrade the forks over next winter with the correct speedymoto triple. hmmmm.....

didn't someone grind smooth the original triple so it wasnt textured, then pc it?
  - real place

Raux

it's worth it. amazing difference on the ride. can't wait til i can upgrade the rear shock.

Link

Quote from: Raux on March 19, 2011, 12:33:06 AM
the risers should be enough for clearance IMO.

sounds like it's coming together nicely.  [thumbsup]

but pics or it didn't happen  [roll]


Got it done, I think the Galfer rotors were worth the extra $ those alone shaved off 2lbs. & with the Galfer sintered pads there is a lot feel to the braking, the stock rotors & pads really stopped the bike almost over kill but with the Galfer you still have the power maybe even more but theres more feel from light to real hard braking. The 848 forks are much much smoother and don't feel like there bottoming out 1/2 way through the stroke. It's been raining like hell around here & I can't get in a proper test ride but here's a few pics for non-believers  ;D    http://s747.photobucket.com/albums/xx116/2link2/

If you get that rear shock sorted post up.

Thanks again every body for the help.


booger

LOL holy protruding fork tops Batman!  :o I'd lose the bars and go to clipons if faced with that arrangement. But hey not my bike. Great job anyway, bet she rides much mo betta. [thumbsup]
Everybody got a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

2001 M900Sie - sold
2006 S2R1000 - sold
2008 HM1100S - sold
2004 998 FE - $old
2007 S4RT
2007 Vespa LX50 aka "Slowey"
2008 BMW R1200 GSA