sliders

[Howie]

You don' need spools for a rear stand.

With and without spools:
http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/53-PBULL-SSR/Pit-Bull-Standard/Spooled-Rear-Stand

[Kev M]

You don' need spools for a rear stand.

With and without spools:
http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/53-PBULL-SSR/Pit-Bull-Standard/Spooled-Rear-Stand

Yeah, I finally realized that last night talking with some buds on gigabikes. Makes sense, so I can use a stand with "lifting pads" that grab the underside of the swingarm!

Guess I'll order one of these (and those frame sliders) asap.

THANKS GUYS!

[thought]

keep in mind that using spools makes lifting with the rear stand a lot more stable.  i would suggest getting some if you can.

[Syscrush]

keep in mind that using spools makes lifting with the rear stand a lot more stable.  i would suggest getting some if you can.

Yeah, I had a lift with the pads and disliked it.  Luckily it got stolen so I switched to spools.

[Kev M]

I still don't know if the M696 swingarm is drilled/tapped for spools?

(EDIT - ok, now we finally have the bike and I don't see anywhere that might be drilled/tapped - so pad type stand for sure - or like I was saying both in case I want to lift using axle sliders with spools on em too).

I'll probably order that pitbull stand that can accept both just in case.

[meanmonster]

Speedymoto sells a rear slider that doubles as a spool (thats what i got).

[Kev M]

Speedymoto sells a rear slider that doubles as a spool (thats what i got).

LOL, yeah, thanks I'm sure that works great for chain maintenance. Problem is that doesn't help when it's time to remove the rear wheel.

[meanmonster]

Ha! Ya, i take it to the dealer for anything other then oil, just don't have the time to hassle with it. Do all our auto repairs and it always seems to get pushed out because I don't have time, don't want to do that with the Duc.

[Kev M]

Ha! Ya, i take it to the dealer for anything other then oil, just don't have the time to hassle with it. Do all our auto repairs and it always seems to get pushed out because I don't have time, don't want to do that with the Duc.

I write repair manuals for a living.

I've been in the trade for about 2 decades now, started when I worked my way through college as an auto tech.

When I was with Chilton I interviewed/hired/trained dozens of techs to write books.

If I hadn't seen enough crap while working as a tech, listening to my staff talk about the crap they pulled working in the industry would have been enough to scare me away from trusting others to work on my rides.

So MOST of the time, the only work that is performed by others on our rides is warranty work. Though I do admit I do sometimes get lazy with a job I don't want to do anymore and will once in a while let someone else touch a car (RARELY a bike). We'll see how lazy I feel when we get to our first desmo adjustment.

I figure even if they screw up my car I'll likely survive the crash.

I REALLY don't trust people touching our bikes.

YMMV and all that  

[Chris@CycleCat]

Here is what our data showed and this is based on Cycle Cat sliders and about a thousand customer crash reports.
80% of the time the sliders would help to reduce damage to some degree.
15% of the time sliders would do nothing to reduce the damage.
5% of the time sliders would cause damage either by flipping the bike or by bending or tearing the frame bosses on the Duc trellis frame.
Take it for what it is. Roll the dice. These are the odds.

[Syscrush]

5% of the time sliders would cause damage either by flipping the bike or by bending or tearing the frame bosses on the Duc trellis frame.
Take it for what it is. Roll the dice. These are the odds.

My guess is that in a crash where a slider ends up flipping the bike or bending/tearing frame bosses, other damage would happen to the frame if the sliders weren't there.  At least on the street.  At the track where you may have grassy runoff it's a bit different.

[Kev M]

I ordered the Motovation Frame Sliders!

Will report back after installation.

Thanks for all the info and help guys!

Kev

[dgm]

Sorry I forgot about pics, BUT I was reminded yesterday as I lowsided my monster on the left side.  I AM a FIRM believer in both frame sliders AND at least front axle sliders now.  Both my frame and front sliders saved what would have been significant damage and likely would have kept my monster in the garage for a long time.   As it stands now, my frame and front sliders are worn, but still usable (I'll just rotate them), I have a broken shift lever and broken mirror, but that's it!  I'll go take some pics. 

[meanmonster]

Just installed bar end sliders as well on mine. Ryno deigned to work with my hindsight mirrors.

[bdub]

dgm-the fuelly link in your sig is cool.
I ordered speedymoto front sliders about a week ago