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Keihin FCRs Vs Mikuni CV carbs

Started by koko64, February 12, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

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koko64

With no enrichener, you learn to use the accelerator pump to squirt fuel into the manifolds and hold the throttle at just off idle/fast idle. A richer Idle mixture setting in winter helps. So more involved to start, but runs better in the cold with no freezing and great performance.
2015 Scrambler 800

PhilB

Quote from: koko64 on December 10, 2012, 02:26:06 AM
With no enrichener, you learn to use the accelerator pump to squirt fuel into the manifolds and hold the throttle at just off idle/fast idle. A richer Idle mixture setting in winter helps. So more involved to start, but runs better in the cold with no freezing and great performance.
Thanks.  I might well look into that next time I need carbs.

PhilB
1993 Ducati M900 Monster "Patina" (203,000 miles, so far) -- 1995 Ducati M900 (wife's bike) -- 1972 Honda CB450 (daughter's bike) -- 1979 Vespa P200 (daughter's scoot) -- 1967 Alfa Romeo GT Jr. (1300cc) -- 1964 Vespa GS160 (160cc 2-stroke) -- 1962 Maicoletta scooter (275cc 2-stroke) -- 1960 Heinkel Tourist 103A1 scooter "Elroy" (175cc 4-stroke)

showerfan

phil -- how did you `beef up the starter system?'
Give me a shout if you know any good motorcycle detailers in the Westchester area.

PhilB

Quote from: showerfan on December 10, 2012, 07:44:44 PMphil -- how did you `beef up the starter system?'
Mainly by upgrading the wires from the battery to the relay, and from the relay to the starter, from 6ga to 4ga, and adding a dedicated ground line back from the starter to the battery instead of relying on grounding through the frame/engine.  I also was able to get a stronger battery that was the same physical size as the original.

PhilB
1993 Ducati M900 Monster "Patina" (203,000 miles, so far) -- 1995 Ducati M900 (wife's bike) -- 1972 Honda CB450 (daughter's bike) -- 1979 Vespa P200 (daughter's scoot) -- 1967 Alfa Romeo GT Jr. (1300cc) -- 1964 Vespa GS160 (160cc 2-stroke) -- 1962 Maicoletta scooter (275cc 2-stroke) -- 1960 Heinkel Tourist 103A1 scooter "Elroy" (175cc 4-stroke)

Autostrada Pilot

+1 on a wiring upgrade for the starter.  Made a HUGE difference in how fast the 900 carbies start.  I ordered the Powerlet kit for like $30.
2003 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

1999 Monster 900 City - Sold

After 7 years of Monsters, I'm sadly bikeless right now.

dlearl476

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Quote from: PhilB on December 09, 2012, 07:56:30 PM
I'm interested in the comments about cold weather.  My original carbs wore out a couple years ago, so I had the choice.  I was worried about the lack of an enrichener, and stories that bikes with the FCRs can be harder to start, especially in cold weather, so I got a used set of the OEM carbs.  They seem to do alright in the cold, once I beefed up the starter system.

Are the FCRs actually good in cold weather?

PhilB

Phil, if one of those stories was mine, I apologize. My cold wether starting issues were completely self-induced. I installed the Powerlet kit and had my carbs adjusted and it helped a bit but not much. Couldn't get the bike started to go on a New Year's Day ride.
I was working on that and changing the belts the other day and the friend who was helping me/showing me how to do it noticed that the battery I had was way underpowered.

See, when my OEM batt died a couple of years ago, I didn't want to replace it with a wet cell and the Westco dealer sold me what he said was listed for our bikes. Well, it was a 9Mah/120CCA batt when spec calls for a 10Mah/150 CCA BATT. (IIRC)

So installed a TrueGel gel hybrid battery yesterday (16Mah/190CCA) and it fired right up the second I hit the starter button on a 35 degree day. Don't know whether to jump for joy or kick myself in the ass.

Otherwise, ditto to all the praised heaped on the FCRs. I like them so much I want to get a pair for my F650.

PhilB

Quote from: dlearl476 on January 11, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
Phil, if one of those stories was mine, I apologize. My cold wether starting issues were completely self-induced. I installed the Powerlet kit and had my carbs adjusted and it helped a bit but not much. Couldn't get the bike started to go on a New Year's Day ride.
I was working on that and changing the belts the other day and the friend who was helping me/showing me how to do it noticed that the battery I had was way underpowered.

See, when my OEM batt died a couple of years ago, I didn't want to replace it with a wet cell and the Westco dealer sold me what he said was listed for our bikes. Well, it was a 9Mah/120CCA batt when spec calls for a 10Mah/150 CCA BATT. (IIRC)

So installed a TrueGel gel hybrid battery yesterday (16Mah/190CCA) and it fired right up the second I hit the starter button on a 35 degree day. Don't know whether to jump for joy or kick myself in the ass.

Otherwise, ditto to all the praised heaped on the FCRs. I like them so much I want to get a pair for my F650.
Alright.  Well, the carbs I have on there now only have about 50K on them, so maybe 10 years or so down the road when they wear out, I'll give the FCRs another look.

PhilB
1993 Ducati M900 Monster "Patina" (203,000 miles, so far) -- 1995 Ducati M900 (wife's bike) -- 1972 Honda CB450 (daughter's bike) -- 1979 Vespa P200 (daughter's scoot) -- 1967 Alfa Romeo GT Jr. (1300cc) -- 1964 Vespa GS160 (160cc 2-stroke) -- 1962 Maicoletta scooter (275cc 2-stroke) -- 1960 Heinkel Tourist 103A1 scooter "Elroy" (175cc 4-stroke)