Is it possible for this broken clutch to have only 3k Miles? UPDATED!!

[Cucciolo]

The local ducati dealer removed my clutch to see its condition and voila!!

Any recommendations on getting the basket and a disc set cheap? 

[Speeddog]

Did you buy the bike new?

[aaronb]

whoa.  i had mine out at 5500 miles and it looked perfect.  there were even grind marks remaining on the friction material from when they were made.  but i only ride the bike on sundays... when i go to church... i swear   

i couldn't imagine what would have done that to yours with the exception of very very high heat, but your friction material looks relatively ok. 

how do you ride it?  anything hat could have accelerated clutch wear and tear? 

[roy-nexus-6]

The local ducati dealer removed my clutch to see its condition and voila!! Plates are broken/chipped and Basket has deep wear. see the pics.
Now the question is... how can a bike that has only 2,800 miles on it have such a worn out/broken clutch? Is it possible to ride a bike so hard to wear a clutch like this in 3k miles? I bought it used with 2,800 miles on it. I've had it less than a month. 
Any recommendations on getting the basket and a disc set cheap? 

Yes, it is possible. My clutch became 'problematic' at 10 000kms due to the previous owner (I bought the bike with 7000kms on it). I replaced the clutch plates immediately: the clutch basket needed to be replaced, but I was told it would be ok if I didn't ride the bike hard.

Well, at the 20 000km service, the clutch basket is still fine. I don't push the bike hard, but the previous owner must have been really punching it from the lights.

Replace everything. Bike'll feel fantastic.

[Speeddog]

Your pics are kinda IZ_, but IMO, the clutch that came in your bike from the factory, is now in one of his other bikes.
That's a 20k+ street miles clutch.

Unlikely he messed with the odometer, since '02 when the electronic speedos were used across the board on Monsters, I haven't heard of even *one* that was reset.
AFAIK, its' impossible.

Sorry.

Barnett baskets are fairly cheap, and I think Motowheels has one that's not very expensive.

If you get an aluminum basket other than Barnett, make sure and get aluminum frictions.

[Speeddog]

<my $.02>

From your IZ_ pics, IMO, that's not a 3k miles clutch.

He may have been victimized by *his* mechanic.
He may have forgotten that he swapped it, or had his mechanic swap it.
Maybe he loaned his bike to a 'friend'.
Maybe the dealer he bought the bike from swapped it before he got it.
You'll never know.

I suggest that you approach it as diplomatically as possible with the PO.
Going in with guns blazing usually doesn't work.

</my $.02>

[Grappa]

I would wonder if it wasn't a clutch from one of the previous owners track bikes as well, however, I would then wonder how he would have thrown the loose bits back into the bike.  Perhaps he changed out the parts as soon as he bought the new bike, then put 2800 miles on the banged up clutch.  I reckon the dealer pulled apart your clutch because you were complaining about noise or function?  Something that wasn't there when you had test ridin the bike?

I think the aluminum frictions that Speeddog is refering to are the friction plates.  If you switch to an aluminum clutch basket, you also need to switch to aluminum friction plates at the same time.  You can't use steel plates with an aluminum basket.

I guess I would be pissed at previous owner.      That kind of damage at 2800 miles just seems wrong.  But, best to try to figure everything out before you start pointing fingers.

[eesnas]

I think he unplugged the guages, you should be able to tell by his body language if he is lying, watch for his eyes shifting to the left...

Problem is, even if you can prove it, which you really cannot, what can you do about it?

This type of stuff sucks and you can only hope if he is dishonest that karma will bite him hard.

[Count Desmo]

Can anyone do such damage on a clutch in 3k miles?

I can't imagine how.  Sorry.

[aaronb]

Your pics are kinda IZ_, but IMO, the clutch that came in your bike from the factory, is now in one of his other bikes.
That's a 20k+ street miles clutch.
...

that makes the most sense. the bike won't run with the gauges unplugged from what i have read. 

just another case of buyer beware.  unless he offers to help you out i don't think there is much you can do  

[NAKID]

that makes the most sense. the bike won't run with the gauges unplugged from what i have read. 

just another case of buyer beware.  unless he offers to help you out i don't think there is much you can do  

True, the bike WILL NOT run with the gauges unplugged...

[Count Desmo]

I did no mean unplugged. I meant he replaced the original with 20k miles with a new one with zero miles and then just rode it for 2,800 and said.. here.. take this brand new bike.. 

I believe the clutch swap scenerio is more likely.

[NAKID]

Yeah, that's quite a few hoops (and several hundred dollars) to jump through...

[dlearl476]

I believe the clutch swap scenerio is more likely.

+1

Either that or he totally beat the shit out of the bike for 2800 miles and sold it when things started to go wrong.  Hope you didn't pick a lemon.

[Triple J]

It seems to be a consensus that there is no way to wear a clutch like this in 3k miles no matter what kind of an a#$%^& you are to your bike.

Now, what about the possibility of replacing the old gauge with a new one? Replace a faulty gauge with 20k miles for a new one with zero miles on it, then ride it for 3k and just say it has only 3k miles. Is there any way of knowing what mileage the bike really has if the gauge has been replaced?

I don't believe there's a way to determine the actual mileage if the gauges have been switched.

That said, I agree with the others that the clutch swap sounds most likely.  If the bike had like 20K miles you'd be able to tell.  The seat would definitely be worn, and the bike as a whole would be worn a little (chips in rim paint, dirty engine, etc).  If it looked like it only had 2,800 miles on it then it probably did.  He could have kept it pristine, but not likely if the clutch was that f'ed up.

I'd just buy a new clutch and get on with life.  There's always some risk when buying a used bike.