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Monster 796 clutch conversion?

Started by derosis, April 24, 2011, 10:46:54 PM

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Curmudgeon

#30
January 28, 2012, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: bikepilot on April 29, 2011, 06:26:04 AM
Wet clutches work really nicely, embrace progress  :P

Puzzled here as well why anyone would do this, (for a bunch of clatter and "loose nuts in a can"), when the APTC works so sweetly on my 796, at least for my taste..., and this is my 9th Ducati since 1965.  ;) Maybe (definitely) I'm getting weaker too!  :) :) :)
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

Raux

#31
January 28, 2012, 11:37:47 AM
although i was on the dry clutch conversion search as well, mainly to get rid of the APTC since it tended to slip under heavy load and heat.
now that EVR has said they will do a true slipper for the small case motors.. i've decided to wait for that. NOW, can I ever afford it...

Curmudgeon

#32
January 28, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
Quote from: Raux on January 28, 2012, 11:37:47 AM
although i was on the dry clutch conversion search as well, mainly to get rid of the APTC since it tended to slip under heavy load and heat.
now that EVR has said they will do a true slipper for the small case motors.. i've decided to wait for that. NOW, can I ever afford it...

Never even had a hint of slip, so I must be getting old!  ;) Serious downshifter though and nice to have no hint of lock-up either, and that's with 10 more ft. lbs than you too.

The wet version is 2/3 the cost of the dry? Are you after this, or are you a clatter fan?  8) http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=986
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

freeclimbmtb

#33
January 28, 2012, 12:23:38 PM
Quote from: Curmudgeon on January 28, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
Never even had a hint of slip, so I must be getting old!  ;) Serious downshifter though and nice to have no hint of lock-up either, and that's with 10 more ft. lbs than you too.

The wet version is 2/3 the cost of the dry? Are you after this, or are you a clatter fan?  8) http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=986

I've dropped the clutch and had the revs fly up almost to redline (not intentional...one click to many in a panic) and the only time I've ever had any wheel lock was into first on a cold tire. 

I want it for the look, the sound, and the history...

Quote from: stopintime on January 28, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
It's called a dual mass primary gear and it has been responsible for a 'few' heavy engine repairs.
Older small Monster's one piece gears can be fitted to avoid this issue, but it's making a really loud high pitch noise.

As for this, clearly noise isnt an issue for me, and I actually like the sound of gear whine...makes it sound like it has a roots blower  [evil]

(and I didnt realize that there was a failure concern...looking into that NOW.)
2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.

Raux

#34
January 28, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
I had clutch slip pretty bad during a trip to italy, me the wife and baggage, summer heat.

Curmudgeon

#35
January 28, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
Quote from: Raux on January 28, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
I had clutch slip pretty bad during a trip to italy, me the wife and baggage, summer heat.

Guess you can sell her on the "solution" then?  ;) That must be nearly X2 the load I'm carrying.

Oddly, during break-in I had a couple of instances of clutch "moan" at no load and low speed and RPM for no apparent reason. Disappeared after cooling down, again for no reason. Since my dealer changed the oil to his bulk Redline 15W50 Racing, vs the Shell Advance, that moan never returned. Go figure...

Why a 696 vs 796 BTW? Insurance cost in Germany? Just curious since you sometimes carry a passenger, (brave lad!)...
2011 796 ABS "Pantah" - Rizoma Bar, 14T, Tech Spec, Ohlins DU-737, Evaps removed, Sargent Seat, Pantah skins

Raux

#36
January 28, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
honestly the 696 was enough through the Alps with passenger and gear. it wasn't til the heat of Italy that I had issues.

COuld have been oil choice, so to prepare for WDW 2012, I'm going to 20w-50

BUT still, A more positive lock clutch would be better IMO. I used to have a M900 with a dry clutch and had a lot of fun with that setup, so even going with a non-slipper I wouldn't mind.

DoWorkSon

#37
January 28, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
I know motowheels put out a feeler thread on a different board wondering how many would be interested in a dry clutch conversion..... Maybe if enough people email them, they will decide to do it....
2003 BMW R1150GS- The commuter
2009 M696--SOLD

TitanMonsterS4R

#38
January 28, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
I looked into this for my S2R800 and was quoted $2300 for parts and labor by a well respected Ducati shop in WVA. Unfortunately for that price I might as well buy an S2R1K. 

Good luck with the conversion. 
06 Monster S4R - Red/Black Final Edition

DTR

#39
January 28, 2012, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: freeclimbmtb on January 28, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
honestly, I hope your right...because if I rope him into a deal...then I'll have a one off!  ;D

Now that I own the bike I've decided I need another bike: an 1100s...and get my damn adjustable forks and dry clutch.  Then I'll have the best of both worlds!!!!!


There phil, fixed it for ya ;)

freeclimbmtb

#40
January 29, 2012, 08:20:51 PM
Quote from: DTR on January 28, 2012, 05:01:50 PM
There phil, fixed it for ya ;)

Thanks evan!
2011 Monster 796 ABS

CW/evotech tail tidy, lightwereks integrated tail light, CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, Duc.ee solenoid eliminator & 696 midpipe, sans charcoal canister, pileon grab bars, Arrow Dark slipons (sans dB killers), Rizoma Zero11's, Rizoma Lux grips, Rizoma rearsets, Rizoma gas cap, 1098R Ohlins forks, IMA Triples, Galfer wave rotors, Brembo radial masters, Rizoma reservoirs, Ohlins DU737, Rizoma bars, 15t AFAM front and 41t supersprox rear sprocket with EK MVXC chain.
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