Lawsuit?

[MuscovyDuc]

I got on the old site and there was some rumors about VS going forward with a lawsuit against the creators of this site. Something about a no-competetion clause?

[Kaveh]

Look at the source, it's coming from someone who has been lying the entire time he was on the DML.  (Masked Marvel)

Don't forget their are 2 lawyers in the admin group here, and why would VS tell some dude named 'postwhore' about their legal issues? 

That guy is just trying to stir shit, typical of him.

[Popeye the Sailor]

The mods weren't paid employees-they wouldn't have signed anything along the lines of a non-competition clause.

[mitt]

I can only speak for myself - VS never contacted me for any such agreement   wt:

I think that Jeff H. (the owner who received money for the sale of the DML) is the only one who may have signed such an agreement.

I hope they succeed with the new DML, and I hope this board succeeds also.

I imagine this happens every time they roll out a purchased site redesign, and it is just water under the bridge for them.

mitt

[Statler]

I am not planning on losing any sleep on that issue at all.

[MuscovyDuc]

Thought it sounded pretty stupid, there's thousands of pointless posts floating around there since yesterday.

[erkishhorde]

Kind of along similar lines...

Think we will eventually manage to bring the sponsorship ring over here? I don't know what has to go on for that stuff to work out but I get the feeling that being a sponsor ties you to the site a bit more? Maybe no? has anyone contacted them about the change as well?

[Alex]

I'm no fan of corporations, ads, or canadians (jk), but I have to admit it seems a slight bit shady to me to make a new site like this.

How do you think Microsoft would have reacted if they had successfully bought Yahoo, only to find all the employees working, instead, at a brand new competitor named Yahooo (with the a strikingly similar way of operating as the original Yahoo), the very next day?

VS isn't microsoft, and the legality of it is certainly a much less big deal, but still... It's basically the same scenario.

To be clear, I don't care (then again, I don't care about stealing software off the net either...), I just want to be honest about what's happening here.

Think critically people.

[Super T.I.B]

How do you think Microsoft would have reacted if they had successfully bought Yahoo, only to find all the employees working, instead, at a brand new competitor named Yahooo (with the a strikingly similar way of operating as the original Yahoo), the very next day?

The mods weren't employees and I think, are free to do what they wanted to.

[Kaveh]

I'm no fan of corporations, ads, or canadians (jk), but I have to admit it seems a slight bit shady to me to make a new site like this.

How do you think Microsoft would have reacted if they had successfully bought Yahoo, only to find all the employees working, instead, at a brand new competitor named Yahooo (with the a strikingly similar way of operating as the original Yahoo), the very next day?

VS isn't microsoft, and the legality of it is certainly a much less big deal, but still... It's basically the same scenario.

To be clear, I don't care (then again, I don't care about stealing software off the net either...), I just want to be honest about what's happening here.

Think critically people.

I think that is a bit off for an analogy.  VS is buying the user base, not the Mods.  I'm sure the DML isn't going to take that big a hit membership wise.  It's just going to lack the core characters and banter that it had.  VS doesn't care about that as much as pure simple numbers they can sell to their advertisers.

It would be like if some department heads/managers in Yahoo (not board members) quit because they don't like Microsoft and get a job at Google.  It's something that Microsoft expects to happen, but 90% of the employees are staying over.

[mitt]

I'm no fan of corporations, ads, or canadians (jk), but I have to admit it seems a slight bit shady to me to make a new site like this.

How do you think Microsoft would have reacted if they had successfully bought Yahoo, only to find all the employees working, instead, at a brand new competitor named Yahooo (with the a strikingly similar way of operating as the original Yahoo), the very next day?

VS isn't microsoft, and the legality of it is certainly a much less big deal, but still... It's basically the same scenario.

To be clear, I don't care (then again, I don't care about stealing software off the net either...), I just want to be honest about what's happening here.

Think critically people.

Think critically?

Yahoo doesn't pay their people either than?  They work for free?  I am not going to mod a couple hours of day for nothing so VS Jim or Stew can make a living.  

I don't steal anything btw, software included  wt:

mitt

[Grampa]

spooooooooooooon

[Alex]

Geez, I never said it was a perfect analogy! I said "basically" the same.  

I realize the mods were volunteers, and that they can do what they want. I also realize VS probably barely notices them gone.

You do have to admit though, this site is an awful lot like another website that we used to go to...

VS paid money for the DML because it had value, and even volunteers were a part of that value. I never worked for the DML, but I was part of that value too. Now we're all here, and that trend will continue, even if it obviously won't lead to the destruction of the DML user base.

I'm not worried about getting sued, but seeing the new DMF exactly the same as the old DML does make my "this is wrong" sense tingle just a little.

It would be like if some department heads/managers in Yahoo (not board members) quit because they don't like Microsoft and get a job at Google.  It's something that Microsoft expects to happen, but 90% of the employees are staying over.

...No, it's like those managers got a job at Yahooo.

[mitt]

Geez, I never said it was a perfect analogy! I said "basically" the same.  

I'm not worried about getting sued, but seeing the new DMF exactly the same as the old DML does make my "this is wrong" sense tingle just a little.

No worries    VS did a lot of other stuff behind the scenes, that maybe makes the dmf feel unguilty for us mods.

Plus, there are differences - The dmf is not as pretty, has more time out errors, and no image gallery  wt: 

The old DML was one of, if not, the best motorcycle forum on the web. Better than the dmf currently.  A lot of that credit goes to Michael Moore, who spent oggles of time tweaking the theme just right, just to get it deleted with a click of the button.  Maybe, one day, the dmf will be as good 

mitt

[aa4111]

I'm no fan of corporations, ads, or canadians (jk), but I have to admit it seems a slight bit shady to me to make a new site like this.

How do you think Microsoft would have reacted if they had successfully bought Yahoo, only to find all the employees working, instead, at a brand new competitor named Yahooo (with the a strikingly similar way of operating as the original Yahoo), the very next day?

VS isn't microsoft, and the legality of it is certainly a much less big deal, but still... It's basically the same scenario.

To be clear, I don't care (then again, I don't care about stealing software off the net either...), I just want to be honest about what's happening here.

Think critically people.

That's not really the case here... It's more like microsoft bought yahoo, coca-cola, ford, hershey's, and nike, then tried to put it all in one mall complex with every store having the same exact (inefficient and objectively inferior) layout, then put ads EVERYWHERE, then asked the current employees to continue working for free because of their passione for their respective areas.