New Monster 659 delivered!

[lila696]

For you perhaps ... unfortunately Stu has to worry about his:
. sex
. age
. address
. learner status
. participation on a certain Sydney Ozmo ride

All to his detriment. These all have a greater bearing on the premium he will pay than the motorbike he is insuring.

I would think that most people, regardless of what bike they are insuring, are paying waaay more than $320 p.a.


My comment was made based purely on the bike and obviously other things come into play as you have mentioned.

Maybe as a woman of 42 years of age and only 2 years riding experience in total we get better rates?

My bike was purchased new by my husband when i was on L's and was $355 for 12 months with me listed as the owner without a full licence.
QBE was the cheapest by a long way and i was quoted up to almost $1000 from other Insurers.

[mattyvas]

Yep $320 is great for a premium on your insurance, but there are lots of factors that come into play.
I don't think I ever paid that little for my insurance. But that a whole other can of worms.
Let's concentrate on pretty bikes and making them prettier still...

[ducm3]

So I swung by Frasers on Saturday and saw the 659... virtually identical to the 696 really.

One of the benefits (over a 620) is ABS as an option (1k) so if I decided to go with a new 659 I'd probably get that...
Bike itself is $14,290 rideaway, and they aren't really budging on that at all because there is such limited stock available.
They said they'll do CF termis for 1.6k fitted so with ABS and pipes it comes to $16,890!

Fair bit of coin.... but it's shiny and new!

Can you elaborate more on this? I've been told there is an exhaust/ECU/filter upgrade soon to be available for the 659, but I'm assuming it's an upgrade purely to improve the exhaust note, not the power given it's a LAMS bike?

[Wells]

In the 620 vs 659 discussion...
I'm unsure of how the 659 is governed but know that the 620 is simply the infamous throttle stop plate which is an easy enough modification to remove.
I've made this point before but will reiterate that I feel that a governed 620 is dangerous for an experienced rider. Anyone with a 659 know whether it's a mechanical stop or an ECU thing that reduces the 659's power? (I'm also led to believe that they're quite a fair bit heavier... so some simple weight reduction could be a good option to gain some performance)

[Tikfd6]

For you perhaps ... unfortunately Stu has to worry about his:
. sex
. age
. address
. learner status
. participation on a certain Sydney Ozmo ride

All to his detriment. These all have a greater bearing on the premium he will pay than the motorbike he is insuring.

I would think that most people, regardless of what bike they are insuring, are paying waaay more than $320 p.a.

I got my insurance through Insure my ride, and its only $390. Thats for a male, 38, brand new 659, and im a first year bike rider. Been on Scooters for years but.

[Tikfd6]

In the 620 vs 659 discussion...
I'm unsure of how the 659 is governed but know that the 620 is simply the infamous throttle stop plate which is an easy enough modification to remove.
I've made this point before but will reiterate that I feel that a governed 620 is dangerous for an experienced rider. Anyone with a 659 know whether it's a mechanical stop or an ECU thing that reduces the 659's power? (I'm also led to believe that they're quite a fair bit heavier... so some simple weight reduction could be a good option to gain some performance)

The 659 only has a throttle stop.

Ducm3, the exhaust/ECU/Filter kit for the 659 would put it well over the LAMS limit, thats why im waiting until after lams to start modifying the power of mine.

Is there anyone on here who has ridden a 696 and 659 back to back?
Any comments?

[Wells]

The 659 only has a throttle stop.

Nice... can you take a photo of it?

620 had shear bolts holding the plate in place so it was just a matter of using an easy out or dremel'ing the sides of the shear'd head so you could get some purchase on it.

[ducm3]

The 659 only has a throttle stop.

Ducm3, the exhaust/ECU/Filter kit for the 659 would put it well over the LAMS limit, thats why im waiting until after lams to start modifying the power of mine.

Is there anyone on here who has ridden a 696 and 659 back to back?
Any comments?

Are you sure about this? Because I have been told that the 659 not only has a throttle stop, but also has an ECU restriction in place, which presumably would be removed upon installation of the exhaust/filter/ECU upgrade kit.

[Tikfd6]

Here you go Wells.
Hi Duc, as far as i have been told its just the throttle stop, that was from my dealer, he has no knowledge of the ECU thing.

[bmroxm5]

Can you elaborate more on this? I've been told there is an exhaust/ECU/filter upgrade soon to be available for the 659, but I'm assuming it's an upgrade purely to improve the exhaust note, not the power given it's a LAMS bike?

Yes slip ons only (no ECU/airfilter etc)... also these pipes are the same as the 696 as far as I'm aware hence 659/696 pipes are interchangeable.

[bmroxm5]

Thanks for sharing the pic of the restrictor, I was under the impression that the 659 was restricted in the ECU so it's a bit trickier than just modifying the pin in the 620.. I believe the restrictor in the 659 just limits how hard the bike revs or something? Anyway where there is a will, there is a way [to get around the restrictor] and a certain someone at a certain dealership may or may not have said that they can arrange for the ECU to be unrestricted so the bike can reach full revs.

[bmroxm5]

Dont think the insurance should be to bad Matty.
My 696 is only $320 a year with QBE so would imagine a 659 would be around the same price?

wow $320 that's pretty cheap... I'm not expecting anything close to that. QBE doesn't have the 659 listed on their online quote tool so I might have to ring up/investigate further later on...

[Tikfd6]

wow $320 that's pretty cheap... I'm not expecting anything close to that. QBE doesn't have the 659 listed on their online quote tool so I might have to ring up/investigate further later on...

I tried QBE but they wanted $780.
Insure my ride was the only ones with the 659 on their list.

[DinoM659]

I have a mate who builds bikes and took one look at the throttle stop and I had to stop him trying to take it off! It's a one way street for the LAMS reg, if it's modified then it's not a LAMS anymore.

From the specs, its a shorter stroke and the throttle stop. I'm not sure on the ECU mods, but I'm sure it has to have a different setup due to the cc difference and stroke so maybe they've detuned it too.

I'm no expert but I have enough power while learning and like the bike just the way it is.


Cheers,

Dino

[lila696]

wow $320 that's pretty cheap... I'm not expecting anything close to that. QBE doesn't have the 659 listed on their online quote tool so I might have to ring up/investigate further later on...

QBE has a price match guarantee so you can use insure my ride or even famous bike insurance for a cheap online quote and QBE will match.