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Rizoma Limit or Radial mirrors?

Started by Spider, June 19, 2008, 04:29:30 AM

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melvin


Dockstrada

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Quote from: melvin on June 21, 2008, 12:53:49 PM

quite clearly you haven't been looking hard enough


http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=2136.0

may be mistaken, seems that  risoma have much more adjustment than the sato  ???
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stopintime

Yes, no lowering effect from the Rizoma (or any other, except CycleCat and MFW-Wolf Vario) rearsets. Adjusting them back will open up the angles of the hip and knee joints, but put more downward pressure on the knees. Good or bad, it depends.

The Limit is VERY profiled/fat and I'm not sure if that is a good look on Monsters. Radials are less profiled, but still more Sport Bike?
I have the Impulsive and I think they look just right.

All three have convex glass, which IMO is good. Be aware that all three are about 4 cm shorter than stock and you will sacrifice/trade rear view for side view. I mounted mine on SW-Motech 40 mm mirror wideners from TwistedThrottle and got excellent view of what's straight behind me. My mirrors are same size and place as Class Retro would be, but without that look. (no pictures, sorry)
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Dockstrada

Quote from: stopintime on June 21, 2008, 03:04:53 PM
Yes, no lowering effect from the Rizoma (or any other, except CycleCat and MFW-Wolf Vario) rearsets. Adjusting them back will open up the angles of the hip and knee joints, but put more downward pressure on the knees. Good or bad, it depends.

The Limit is VERY profiled/fat and I'm not sure if that is a good look on Monsters. Radials are less profiled, but still more Sport Bike?
I have the Impulsive and I think they look just right.

All three have convex glass, which IMO is good. Be aware that all three are about 4 cm shorter than stock and you will sacrifice/trade rear view for side view. I mounted mine on SW-Motech 40 mm mirror wideners from TwistedThrottle and got excellent view of what's straight behind me. My mirrors are same size and place as Class Retro would be, but without that look. (no pictures, sorry)

Do we ever fit these items on our machines thinking of the functionality ???
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stopintime

Quote from: Dockstrada on June 22, 2008, 04:03:56 AM
Do we ever fit these items on our machines thinking of the functionality ???

Always actually ;) I mean: I choose the best looking of the items that will be covering my specs regarding function.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Spider

Quote from: Dockstrada on June 22, 2008, 04:03:56 AM
Do we ever fit these items on our machines thinking of the functionality ???

whatever my choice I believe I will get greater functionality - the current MM ears vibrate enough to make any woman go cross-eyed with good natural unwholesome thoughts and they show a fantastic detail view of the underarms of my jacket.

Betty

OK, I think I chipped a tooth .... bit the bullet.

Tool ain't gonna like this:

Rizoma Radial Nakeds were waiting for me when I got home on Friday morning and they went on today before the ride - which proved to be a good test. A couple of problems were encountered during the install: firstly the adapter on the right clashed with the brake (coffin) reservoir as the reservoir was a bit too tall - a couple of spacers fixed that; secondly, we didn't have an allen key big enough to tighten them up - so it was off to the local garage to sort it out.

The trip down with no mirrors was weird, but even when installed the riding experience was quite different to what I was used to. The stock mirrors I found to provide a pretty good view, but I was not too fussed with the looks and I also noticed that my riding style was changing to make them less effective.

So, my impressions:

- I love the finish, overall very aesthetically pleasing
- they are pretty solid, no buzz/vibration was detected
- they allow you to see more than the stock mirrors, but:
- the stalks are very short (well that is the look I wanted) which has the mirrors in a different (lower) position than the stockies. This was rather disconcerting and the reason why I had put the decision off for about a year - but it just meant a change in approach
- the side view is awesome with the convex glass (in cool blue hue)
- the rear view is compromised due to the short/low stalks

The change in approach: as I almost always ride in a group keeping tabs on those behind me (although rare as the default slowpoke tail-gunner) is the way I normally ride. But seeing directly behind me was hopeless, initially I was trying to overcome this by tucking my elbow in as I did with the stockies but found I also need to move my body out of the way to see behind. It took me a while to work it out but I have now started to master the underam glance and all is well with the world.

A couple of piccies to follow, when uploaded.
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Betty

Excuse the photos and all the crap in the background, hopefully it gives you an idea of what things are like.

The before view:



Check out the difference in the stalks:



Not much difference in size, shape is different - but it is the convex glass which does the work:



How they look from the front:



What I get to look at:



Sorry, but couldn't be bothered moving everything around again to get a clean background.
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Spider

Nice Betty! looking good  [thumbsup]

you got the matching Rizoma grips in naked aluminium too?

got em for PJ's?

I was close to pulling the trigger but ended up having a monsterparts order get processed instead....if you spread out the purchases to an order a month it doesn't seem like an addiction!

I think Rizoma should sponsor the board some times!

Dockstrada

They look like the ones i should have bought from PJ's . Im not so happy with my current ones cant see sh%t :'(

Very nice Betty [thumbsup]
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Betty

Quote from: Spider on July 12, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
you got the matching Rizoma grips in naked aluminium too?

Had them a while, the mirrors was just a difficult step

Quote from: Spider on July 12, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
got em for PJ's?

Yep, many dealings with Mike & Paige - very good to deal with

Quote from: Spider on July 12, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
....if you spread out the purchases to an order a month it doesn't seem like an addiction!

Nope it just confirms the addiction. It is good to have a wife that understands, although sometimes I question myself

Quote from: Spider on July 12, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
I think Rizoma should sponsor the board some times!

Have had people ask if they sponsor me ..... Ha! I wish, they're bloody expensive.
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Betty

Quote from: Dockstrada on July 12, 2008, 02:44:32 AM
They look like the ones i should have bought from PJ's . Im not so happy with my current ones cant see sh%t :'(

Very nice Betty [thumbsup]

I was initially worried as well, it took me a while to position them about right. But the real difference was made by changing the way I use them. Still feels a bit wrong.
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stopintime

Small input from the other side of the globe:

Have you considered the 30-40 mm mirror wideners from SW-Motech? They help a lot for the rearward view.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Betty

Thanks for the info Stopintime. I will give the current setup a bit of time first and see how I go.
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Tool

Well Betty, I need to let you know that I am humbled by the fact that you value my opinion.  I am very impresed by the product and the very factual manner in which you have imparted your experience and opinions.  I applaud you.  I think you are an asset to the forum, and I would not even think of typing anything that may denigrae you, in fact I applaud the manner in which you have presented your experience and I beleive that many here will take your experience to heart and learn from your experience and well worded ( and modest, dare I add) opinion.  How very refreshing.


Thank you.  Tool
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