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Started by zarn02, October 09, 2011, 12:05:04 PM

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zarn02

#15
October 10, 2011, 03:18:29 PM
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

Monsterlover

#16
October 10, 2011, 03:29:14 PM
Quote from: zarn02 on October 10, 2011, 03:18:29 PM
*blinks*

To whom, exactly, is that marketed? ???

+1

Do not want
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DucHead

#17
October 10, 2011, 06:52:35 PM
'05 S4R (>47k mi); '04 Bandit 1200 (>92k mi; sold); '02 Bandit 1200 (>11k mi); '97 Bandit 1200 (2k mi); '13 FJR1300 (1k mi); IBA #28454 "45"

muskrat

#18
October 10, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
Quote from: zarn02 on October 10, 2011, 03:18:29 PM
*blinks*

To whom, exactly, is that marketed? ???
how the hell should I know >:(
I don't have that kind of cash.
Can we thin the gene pool? 

2015 MTS 1200
09 Electra Glide

junior varsity

#19
October 11, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
i want to know more about the parts on the M4 One Shot (the one with 130+ hp on a 1200cc 2v).   For example, why is the oil cooler shaped that way?   Is the M4 One Shot's power "simply" a combination of the NCR Stroker Crank + Big Pistons/Cylinders, and their Cams/Valves?  It it reworked further?

I like its specs a lot but it would be hard to choose between the M4 / M4 One-Shot and the Pierobon F042 bikes with similar NCR engine bits... I mean, they are all very high priced and should be a bit lacking in comparison to the 1199 when doing a $/bike & hp/lb comparison - the new 1199 is alleged to have highest hp/lb ratio of any production bike ever made, a veritable rocket with steering.  And price-wise, is likely to be a tad less than the M4 One-Shot or a tricked-out Pierobon F042...  If I had several large piles of cash, it would be quite a decision to make...

junior varsity

#20
October 11, 2011, 12:19:40 PM Last Edit: October 12, 2011, 01:44:10 PM by j v

ducatiz

#21
October 11, 2011, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: j v on October 11, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
i want to know more about the parts on the M4 One Shot (the one with 130+ hp on a 1200cc 2v).   For example, why is the oil cooler shaped that way?   Is the M4 One Shot's power "simply" a combination of the NCR Stroker Crank + Big Pistons/Cylinders, and their Cams/Valves?  It it reworked further?

it if it like the other NCR bikes, the crank and rods and pistons are all dynamically balanced, crank is lightened and polished.  they up the stroke as on the other bikes.   then they basicailly dremel out divots in the head to reduce weight -- like 2000 of them.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#22
October 11, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
golfball style?

ducatiz

#23
October 11, 2011, 12:53:07 PM
Quote from: j v on October 11, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
golfball style?

exactly.  i have some close-up pics of that New Blue, it was pretty interesting. Not all roudn divots, some are straight cuts but pretty much the entire head surface was done that way.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#24
October 11, 2011, 02:15:47 PM
Post em up!

ducatiz

#25
October 11, 2011, 03:12:43 PM
here is one, you can see a little around the exhaust port.  It's not as radical as I remembered.



Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

battlecry

#26
October 11, 2011, 03:15:54 PM
I like Celli's Codatronca more.

ducatiz

#27
October 11, 2011, 03:17:24 PM
I guess, if you like batmobiles.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

junior varsity

#28
October 11, 2011, 04:15:17 PM
i like the batmobile from 1989 Batman, the best batman movie ever made period end of story.  (recent ones are ok, i guess...)

hillbillypolack

#29
October 11, 2011, 06:09:18 PM
Fantastic.  This is the distilled essence of an air cooled motorcycle.  Lighten the bejesus out of it, and increase performance when possible.  Asphalt & Rubber must have their heads up their a$$es because 'only' 130hp in a sub-300 pound bike would be like riding a nuclear explosion.  Add 100-150lbs as the NCR designer said, and you then have current sportbike weight.

Crazy expensive?  Yes. Tour de force craftsmanship?  Certainly.  But for those of you not knowing who these are marketed towards, I have a local Ducati mechanic who purchased two New Blue NCRs when they were new.  Bought by his customers, sight unseen no questions asked.  I saw #12 or #13, it was outstanding.

I'd expect no less from the new bike.  Love it.
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