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Rossi to personally fund all 2012 MotoGP testing

Started by gm2, October 28, 2011, 12:29:16 PM

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gm2

Quote from: koko64 on October 29, 2011, 04:08:27 PM
Rossi enjoyed special Michelins, cooked that night.

so did the other michelin riders.

Quote from: koko64 on October 29, 2011, 04:08:27 PM
Remember the Bridgestone move/tantrum with Yamaha?

i also remember the impact the thursday rule had on michelin. 

Quote from: koko64 on October 29, 2011, 04:08:27 PM
Alloy frame with Ducati? You got it. Motor change? No probs. We'll move heaven and earth for you.

he's a NINE TIME world champion and the bike doesn't work.  of course they're going to change things for him.

Like this is the racing, no?

koko64

Not everyone got the special tyres.
Removing the Thursday rule removed an advantage of one tyre manufacturer over another and therefore the advantage of certain teams when races were in Europe. Run what you brung, rather than build a tyre overnight.
Ducati failed to listen to the guy who won on their bike, and the only one who has ever won on the 800. Ducati didn't listen to others.
Rossi is the GOAT but also the best PR/political operator who will get every technical advantage he can (as all the riders would).
It would be messing with his head that he cant ride around the Ducati's issues like Stoner could and he needs a technical solution. This would be very hard for a nine times world champion to take.
My hope is that the challenge extends his career so he can deal with unfinished business with the Ducati.
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duccarlos

I believe this is also for the CRT teams that are trying to bridge the gap. Remember Suter being quite a few seconds off the pace? I think with a decent rider, like Edwards after he heals, testing the bike in the offseason as much as he can will bring them up to at least 800 levels. It would not do for the factory teams to lap any riders.
Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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desmoquattro

Quote from: duccarlos on November 02, 2011, 12:34:42 PM
I believe this is also for the CRT teams that are trying to bridge the gap. Remember Suter being quite a few seconds off the pace? I think with a decent rider, like Edwards after he heals, testing the bike in the offseason as much as he can will bring them up to at least 800 levels. It would not do for the factory teams to lap any riders.

Maybe they should have a claiming rule for factory riders. Jorge win a race? Let's see how he does on the Triumph Rockett III-based Suter-framed Gap Inc CRT bike!
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zarn02

Quote from: desmoquattro on November 02, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
Jorge win a race? Let's see how he does on the Triumph Rockett III-based Suter-framed Gap Inc CRT bike!

This is a thing I would pay to watch.
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desmoquattro

Quote from: zarn02 on November 02, 2011, 04:48:36 PM
This is a thing I would pay to watch.

Or a claiming rule for riders' girlfriends..I'd pay to watch that too.
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'05 MS4R, blue

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Quote from: desmoquattro on November 02, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
Maybe they should have a claiming rule for factory riders. Jorge win a race? Let's see how he does on the Triumph Rockett III-based Suter-framed Gap Inc CRT bike!

sadly enough, that bike would still prob handle better than the gp11
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Cider

Quote from: koko64 on October 31, 2011, 03:34:23 PM
Ducati failed to listen to the guy who won on their bike, and the only one who has ever won on the 800.

Why does everybody hate on Capirossi?

derby

Quote from: Cider on November 02, 2011, 07:24:41 PM
Why does everybody hate on Capirossi?

well, there's the 1998 season finale 250gp race in buenos aires , for starters...  ;D
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koko64

Capirossi seemed like a nice fella once he got older and married the lovely Ingrid. He didn't win on the 800 did he? I thought it was on the 990.
Strangely, more riders did better on the trellis framed bikes, hmmm. They flexed more I suppose and "talked" to the rider, even if they were under certain circumstances, too flexible.
I say back to the trellis frame, back to what they know and their history.
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Raux

Quote from: koko64 on November 03, 2011, 12:08:49 AM
Capirossi seemed like a nice fella once he got older and married the lovely Ingrid. He didn't win on the 800 did he? I thought it was on the 990.
Strangely, more riders did better on the trellis framed bikes, hmmm. They flexed more I suppose and "talked" to the rider, even if they were under certain circumstances, too flexible.
I say back to the trellis frame, back to what they know and their history.

Never gonna happen, not now that they based their entire new SBK program on this tech.

koko64

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desmoquattro

Quote from: koko64 on November 03, 2011, 12:08:49 AM
Capirossi seemed like a nice fella once he got older and married the lovely Ingrid. He didn't win on the 800 did he? I thought it was on the 990.

Loris won a single race (Japan) on the GP7. He also had 4 podiums on that bike:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loris_Capirossi#Races_by_year
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'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

duccarlos

Anyway, it seems that Dorna is dead set on making the CRT teams more competetive, even though they are aware that they simply can't compete against the aliens. They'll need as much help, and time, as possible to get to a decent point.

Quote from: desmoquattro on November 02, 2011, 05:16:30 PM
Or a claiming rule for riders' girlfriends..I'd pay to watch that too.

+1
Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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gm2

Quote from: derby on November 02, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
well, there's the 1998 season finale 250gp race in buenos aires , for starters...  ;D

[laugh]
Like this is the racing, no?